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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

I welcome our second panel of witnesses today: Professor Jemina Napier, who is chair of intercultural communication, Heriot-Watt University; Lucy Clark, who is a deaf domestic abuse researcher, advocate and trainer; and Rachel O’Neill, who is from the Moray house school of education and sport, University of Edinburgh. You are all welcome. As with the first panel, we have not scheduled a break, but please indicate to me or the clerks if you would like a short break.

I say in BSL, good morning and welcome to the Scottish Parliament and the equalities committee. It is good to see you.

I will start off by asking questions. We heard from the first panel about a lot the positives of the British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015 but also some of the challenges with it. I will come to you first, Lucy Clark. What is your opinion on the positives of the BSL act and what challenges have you seen?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

That is great. What are the challenges with implementing some of the actions related to the BSL act?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

That is okay, thank you. Alana Harper, what are the positive impacts of the act, and what are the main challenges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you. Alana Harper, could you tell the committee a bit more about interpreters, how the different levels work and why that is important?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

I suggest that we have a brief five-minute comfort break.

11:50 Meeting suspended.  

11:55 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

Dr Tweed, did you want to come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

I have an additional question. We have spoken a lot about how important the expansion of BSL education and interpreter training, improved data collection and sustainable funding are in meeting the everyday needs of BSL users. The evidence that you have provided has been really helpful and extremely thorough, and I thank you all for that. However, an issue that we have not touched on is that of how important it is for BSL users to be able to access sport and arts and culture.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

Yes. That is an important point: interpreters are not qualified teachers of the deaf. Thank you.

That brings an end to our public session this morning—well, it is afternoon now. We will move into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda. Thank you so much again.

12:30 Meeting continued in private until 12:43.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you. Rachel O’Neill, what do you think are the positive opportunities and the challenges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Karen Adam

Absolutely. We have come to the end of our session. Have members asked everything they wish to? Do any witnesses wish to add anything to their contributions?