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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
Okay—thank you. We now move to questions from Pam Gosal.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
Good morning, and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2026 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in session 6. We have received no apologies this morning.
Our only agenda item in public today is to continue taking evidence as part of our inquiry into neurodivergence in Scotland. The inquiry was precipitated by the Scottish Government’s decision in 2024 to delay the introduction of a learning disabilities, autism and neurodivergence bill. In the inquiry, we will be focusing on the experience of neurodivergent people in education, employment and the criminal justice system.
We will hear this morning from witnesses in two round-table sessions. The first will focus on the criminal justice system, and in the second, we will hear evidence from groups representing the interests of people with neurodivergences.
We will begin our first session. Before we move to questions, I invite everyone to introduce themselves. I will begin, and then move round to my right.
I am convener of the committee.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
On that point, the committee has heard that neurodivergent people are among the most discriminated against groups of people in Scotland, and that is compounded by the intersectional qualities of an individual, whether they are a woman or from a BAME background or whatever. What are the witnesses’ views on that statement?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
Dorry, you indicated that you want to say something.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
I listened to what Dr Heyman said about prevention and about different sectors working together. Last week, we took evidence from those in the education sector. I was previously a local councillor and I had conversations with local police, who would tell me that, before an individual came to them or got to that point, they would have been known to them over perhaps many years. They were perhaps targeted or tagged as troublemakers in their local communities, but, most of the time, the individual was neurodivergent or had ADHD. They were also often on part-time timetables at school, which gave them additional time to go out and about in the streets.
How do the police work with the education system? Could situations be improved through preventative measures as soon as a flag is raised, or does cross‑sector working already happen before that point?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
Having made sure that all members have asked everything that they wanted to ask, I just want to thank everyone very much. That brings our first round-table session to a close. I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses for our next session.
10:36
Meeting suspended.
10:43
On resuming—
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
That is really interesting. You do not think that neurodivergence is more prevalent; rather, there is perhaps just more understanding of neurodivergence overall, and identification of neurodivergence, whereas in years gone by, people would not have understood particular behaviours as such.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
Thank you.
Dani, you raised barriers to diagnosis in your answer to the first question. Is that one of those issues where there might be a prejudice or a misunderstanding, particularly for girls?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
I do not want to put words into anybody’s mouth, so I am being careful about how I word the questions. In some of the evidence that we have heard, there is often a misunderstanding of how neurodivergence presents. If it does not conform to the way in which the school day should be run, that might be picked up, but it is not until there is a disruptor in that day that it is pulled out. If a child is struggling without a disruptor, that is not picked up so much.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 February 2026
Karen Adam
That would be helpful.