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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

On the point about induction and training, and the experience that members can bring to committees, I think that there is a part for political parties to play prior to members being elected and coming to the Scottish Parliament. That education should begin at the vetting stage and continue when candidates are in place. The understanding of how our democratic institution works is beneficial to all of society anyway, but it is important that people have that basic knowledge in the first place, before they get to Parliament.

Induction, training and on-going professional development are very helpful. Often, we look at a bill for a good few weeks and then we step in to do a bit of post-legislative scrutiny, so the hat that we wear changes, and we have to shift focus. On-going skills development is helpful for everybody on committees.

Emotional intelligence is also important, as is knowing how to recognise the effectiveness of respectful scrutiny—that is how we get the best from the witnesses. A rounded approach to training and induction, both pre-election and on-going when members are here, is important to ensure that we have the most effective committees.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

There would be limitations with smaller committees. There may be a smaller pool of diverse voices to hear from. An inquiry that was done at Westminster found that the most effective committees had between six and 12 members, because that gives the best diversity of views. The gender-sensitive audit that the Scottish Parliament did showed that it is equally important to take into consideration the need to have a broad range of views from women’s perspectives as well.

My concern would be that, with a smaller committee, we might be cancelling out voices that could have an input that would improve not only scrutiny overall but the outcomes for people. We need that proportional representation as much as possible, in every possible respect. I know that, in reality, that can be hard to achieve, but we should be reaching for that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

Yes, of course. I will take the party hat off.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

We already have the flexibility for committees to sit twice a week if they wish to. Previously, my committee has met in the evenings, and we have had away days and work programme planning days. The committees framework already allows us the flexibility to do that; it is for the conveners and committee members to discuss whether they would like to do it. They can already decide to set aside specific weekdays on which to scrutinise bills.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

On that point, we had a really good example on Tuesday evening of how the Parliament can work exceptionally well across parties. We have taken party politics out of the discussion and scrutiny of that particular bill—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

Yes, I mean that they were originally elected to this Parliament in a fair and democratic election. MSPs have already been elected on the premise that they will play various roles here. An individual MSP being seen for their qualities by those within their group who know them the best is, I think, the most effective way of making that decision.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

There are on-going discussions with the leadership of the party on who would be most effective. There is on-going scrutiny of all the members within our group and party and of what is happening at the time as well.

I have never been in the position of making those decisions and I can only surmise what is going through people’s minds when they are making them. However, I think that it is important that there are a variety of views and that a variety of people make those decisions as well, so it is not just one person who is deciding.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

We are here to uphold democracy and to be the voice of the people who elected us to come here. That includes scrutinising the Government and making good law, but that scrutiny does not stop when a bill is presented at stage 1; it is an on-going process, because law and democracy are living entities that we must continually scrutinise to make them the best we can. It is the duty of Parliament and its committees to uphold that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

I apologise.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Karen Adam

I just wanted to set out that the SNP is absolutely behind lived experience, and I was giving some examples of that.