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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you very much, minister. I will start.

In your opening statement on part 1 and in your letter to the committee dated 18 June, you confirmed that stakeholders had identified issues with part 1 of the 2021 act of such significance that the shared view of stakeholders and the Government is that part 1 cannot be implemented without legislative changes that require primary legislation. Will you set out in more detail, for the benefit of the committee, what those various issues were?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you, minister. We will move on to those questions.

Your letter dated 11 March 2025, said that “legal and technical” changes might be required for implementation of the act. Could you tell us a bit more about what those legal and technical changes are and what their impact might be on the implementation of the act?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Karen Adam

I see that there are no further questions, so that concludes our discussion. I thank the minister and her official for coming along. We will suspend briefly to allow for a change of ministers and officials.

10:33 Meeting suspended.  

10:37 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

It is up to you what you would like to ask, Pam.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

That brings our second evidence session to a close. As a north-east Doric BSL user, I appreciate the awareness of regional BSL that has been shown this morning. I am sure that my dad will be watching and that he will also be pleased about that.

I thank the Deputy First Minister and her officials for joining us. I will suspend the meeting briefly before we turn to agenda item 3.

11:18 Meeting suspended.  

11:22 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you so much. We move on to Professor Annelies Kusters.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you. I put the same question to Stacey Gourlay and Rachel Tardito. From the context of a public body and public service, what have been the positive impacts of the BSL act, and what are the challenges in meeting its aims?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you. We have heard really positive feedback from BSL users on Contact Scotland BSL, including that it has been life changing for some people, but unfortunately it has been threatened with closure a couple of times. What are your thoughts on Contact Scotland BSL? Is there anything that we can do to ensure that the service remains for BSL users?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

I welcome our second panel of witnesses this morning. With us from the Scottish Government we have Kate Forbes, Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic; Kevin McGowan, unit head, equality division; Andrew Godfrey-Meers, BSL and social isolation policy manager; Alison Taylor, deputy director for improvement, attainment and wellbeing; and Robert Eckhart, additional support for learning policy team leader. You are all welcome; thank you for attending.

I invite the Deputy First Minister to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Karen Adam

Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2025, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.

Under our first agenda item, we will take a decision on whether to take agenda items 5 to 8 in private. Agenda item 5 is consideration of the committee’s approach to stage 1 of the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill; item 6 is consideration of a draft report on the Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill legislative consent memorandum; item 7 is consideration of a draft letter to the Scottish Government on the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights; and item 8, which is our final agenda item, is consideration of the committee’s work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.