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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 January 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

That brings this session to a close. I thank the witnesses once again for their evidence today. We will suspend briefly while we have a changeover of witnesses.

11:22

Meeting suspended.

11:24

On resuming—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Just to note that we are running out of time and Tess White still has her question to ask. We have to be quite sharp.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Again, I am cognisant of time. Our witnesses for our next panel are waiting. I will bring in Pam Gosal and then Tess White.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Can I interject here?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

It is for the committee to decide. Absolutely.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Before we head to Marie McNair for her questions, I remind members and witnesses to be cognisant of the time. We have gone over time a bit, but I want to give everybody the opportunity to ask their questions in full as much as possible.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Welcome back. We will now move on to our second panel, and I welcome to the meeting Kaukab Stewart, Minister for Equalities. The minister is accompanied by Nick Bland, deputy director for mainstreaming and inclusion and Vuyi Stutley, solicitor from the Scottish Government’s legal directorate. You are all welcome and I thank you for attending the meeting.

I invite the minister to make an opening statement before we move on to questions from the committee.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Yes.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Are you content with that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Karen Adam

Thank you. Minister, on the point about delivering on PSED aims, the committee heard that there is an overemphasis on processes rather than an emphasis on outcomes. How can the Scottish Government monitor whether public bodies will concentrate more on outcomes in future?