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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Thank you. Unfortunately, due to time constraints, we are coming down to the last bit of the meeting, but I really do not want to stifle the discussion. In the remaining time that we have available before we close, which is just a couple of minutes, are there any points that the witnesses would like to get across? Please make them as succinct as possible.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Before we move on to questions from Tess White, Paul McLennan has a supplementary.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Dr Crabb, is there a lack of awareness or understanding? Does there need to be sufficient training for people to spot how women with neurodivergence present to the world?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
We would all agree that having a diagnosis that is fit and proper would not be unhelpful to anyone. The data in regard to men and women is quite stark, so it is worth digging into the reasons for that difference. There should not be any shame involved in any diagnosis whatsoever, and finding out the reasons why someone has that diagnosis is helpful.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
We are coming to the end of our session. Please correct me if you disagree, but I think that we are living in a society in which people seek to understand themselves a bit better. It is a positive thing for people to be self-reflective and to question why they behave or think in particular ways.
We have spoken a lot about the individual and adjustments for the individual. If we think about yesteryear, perhaps there was always the same number of neurodivergent people, but there was not as much self-reflection. Maybe behaviours were shamed in the past. Many people were in health institutions, many ended up in prison, and many ended up isolated and tagged as the eccentric in the village.
We now have a greater understanding of that, so as well as supporting the individual with adjustments, would it be better if we sought to take a whole-society approach that involved looking at how the world is created and set up for neurotypical individuals? Would it be better to take a bigger approach to ensure that society is set up for everyone and that adjustments do not have to be made all the time?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
I thank everybody so much for joining us today. This has been an incredibly helpful evidence session. The invitation is there: if things come to your mind after this meeting—things that you wish you had said or other contributions that you wish to make—the door is not closed, so please feel free to get in touch with the committee with anything else that you would like to add. For example, you had an example of a criminal justice system, Leo. It would be really helpful for the committee to get as full and rounded a picture as possible. Please do follow our inquiry over the next few weeks.
Thank you all once again. That concludes our business in public today, and I thank you all for your attendance. We will now move into private session to consider the remaining items on our agenda.
12:34
Meeting continued in private until 12:54.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Welcome back to our second evidence-taking session, which will take place in a round-table format.
I welcome to the meeting Debbie Best, director, Differabled Scotland; Kabie Brook, chairperson, ARGH Scotland; Sofia Farzana, director and co-founder, Scottish Ethnic Minority Autistics; Marion McLaughlin, managing director and founder, Aurora Autistic Consulting; Rachel Parker, founding trustee, Autistic Voices Advocating Together for Autonomous Rights; Carolyn Scott, founder and researcher, ADHD Right Now; and Leo Starrs-Cunningham, treasurer, Autistic Mutual Aid Society Edinburgh. I hope that I got all of that right. You are all very welcome to join us this morning.
I will begin this morning’s conversation by inviting everyone to very briefly introduce themselves. I am the MSP for Banffshire and Buchan Coast, and convener of the committee.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Thank you. We will now go to those who are joining us online.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
We now have questions from Marie McNair.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 20 January 2026
Karen Adam
Absolutely.