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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I am asking why two different sides say two different things. Are you saying that you do not see that at all?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Ms Leitch, do you have anything to add before I hand back to the convener?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Maybe a little bit of change to the language might be helpful as well so that procedures are in place for unplanned restraint—that is, for matters of last resort rather than planned restraints. I think that that is what Kate Sanger was going on about.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

How do we get into law what would be considered as the last resort for one child but not for another? I am finding that a little bit difficult to understand.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I want to follow up on what you said just now, Suzi, and on what Kate said, which was that what might be safe and enabling for one child could be considered restraining for another. How do we get it right? How do we ensure that we get it right for both the child that needs something in order to be safe and enabled and for the other child where the same thing is restraint? That might be a difficult question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Good morning, panel. I would like to ask you quite an open question. In what circumstances would you see it as appropriate for staff to use restraint or seclusion? How would that compare with current practice in Scotland?

Ms Killean, can I come to you first?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You have already answered my second question, which is about the remuneration of the chairs. In response to the convener’s question, you also said that you are supportive of the enhanced role of the chair and of having one chair throughout the process.

I will ask Mr Forde too, because he also spoke about it. Are you supportive of there being specialist panellists and do you think that they should be paid or remunerated for travel and so on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Do any of the other witnesses have comments on that, or on the remaining provisions in the bill relating to the children’s hearings system that have not been covered?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You have already answered my second question, which is about the remuneration of the chairs. In response to the convener’s question, you also said that you are supportive of the enhanced role of the chair and of having one chair throughout the process.

I will ask Mr Forde too, because he also spoke about it. Are you supportive of there being specialist panellists and do you think that they should be paid or remunerated for travel and so on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Can you expand on that? When would you feel that it would be appropriate to have a single-member panel? Up to which level? I am not sure whether that is the right word to use.