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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay, thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

Your evidence about the extra measures that should be in the bill has been compelling and convincing; you have set them out in a very positive way. Does the fact that they are not in the bill not tell us something about our progress on delivering the Promise?

The third sector organisations, charities and other bodies that I meet are pretty underwhelmed by and feel flat about the bill. They were hoping for a lot more, whether it was family group decision making, the kinship carers aspect or the child’s plan, to which you referred.

Some have talked about the fact that community alternatives to police custody are not in the bill. Is that not an admission by the Government that it is not on track to deliver the Promise? Is the fact that it has not included those measures not an acknowledgement—which it has refused to make until now—that it is just not on track?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

That is excellent. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

I remind you that your Government is a minority Government. You do not command a majority. It would be an outrage if you did not put forward a financial resolution, so I think that you will. The question is how constructive you will be with the member. The alternative would be to have more sessions like this one.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

Sheriff Mackie, you told the story about your engagement with chief social workers and talked about how overstretched they are and the lack of capacity in the system. Is the Government not acknowledging for the first time that, if we carry on as we are, we will not deliver the Promise on schedule?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

I like the level-headed advice that we are getting. It is very refreshing.

I have a question on private providers and profit limitation. It is particularly for Claire Burns because of her experience. Are there good providers who might be spooked by the proposal for profit limitation, particularly because there is a lack of substance behind it? For instance, some providers whose service is good might be securing a small profit and might look to expand. However, they might decide to put expansion on hold until there is absolute clarity about what the provision means. Is that a possibility? Do you have any evidence that that might be coming down the track?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

I think that you will put a financial resolution forward. To do anything else would be an outrage and, given that your party that has stated repeatedly that it is a defender of the Scottish Parliament, I do not think that you would do that.

Throughout the process, you have come across not as neutral on the bill but as a critic of it. I will put it plainly. Unless you engage constructively with Liz Smith and come up with an alternative, non-legislative route that is more substantial than what is being aired, members such as I and, probably, Ross Greer will vote for the bill and you will be landed with a much bigger cost. I therefore suggest that you act much more constructively and openly, come up with the details and help the member to cost the bill so that we can have a financial resolution to allow us to scrutinise the bill and get the issue resolved one way or the other.

That was not a question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

But honestly, minister, you do not act in that way.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Willie Rennie

I do not think that the Government will not provide a financial resolution.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Did you ask anybody to sign a non-disclosure agreement, or did the system ask anybody to do that and to leave their post?