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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Good morning, everybody. The discussion is fascinating, and I want to explore a couple of issues in a wee bit more detail. The first is on the STEM issue and how we intervene at the earliest stage possible to direct youngsters into the STEM professions. The other area is the relationship with the colleges that I have been picking up on in discussions with colleagues.

On STEM, over my time in Parliament, which is about 18 years now, I have been involved in many school visits to Parliament. At every opportunity, I ask the youngsters, “How many of you are doing software development or engineering?”, and no hands go up. I am mindful of Doug Duguid’s point that we need to intervene earlier, and probably at primary level, because when kids go from primary into secondary, a lot of them, particularly females, will drop their interest in science and engineering, software development and so on. What is the secret to trying to reverse that?

I listened carefully to Stevie Wilson when he said that he regularly visits schools and colleges to bring youngsters’ attention to the possibilities of careers in science and engineering. What is the magic ingredient that we could share around Scotland to try to influence the situation?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Do our witnesses want to make any final pitches on issues that we have missed?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much for those answers. It is appreciated.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Stevie Wilson, I will give you the final word. Are you getting the skills that you need from the colleges?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Tony, you said in your opening remarks that people need to think differently about your industry. Rather than throwing things away, they should think about repurposing them. Your website talks about access rather than ownership. How do you embed that skill in the people who work for you? Do you get it from the colleges or do you train people?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Jennifer, you said that there is no other way of sourcing the right staff. Could you elaborate on what you meant by that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Thank you—that was fascinating.

My other question is about the relationship with colleges. I have picked up on a few comments that you have made in the course of the discussion. Tony, you said that you had to create your own talent pipeline. Jennifer, you said that you needed to grow your own talent pipeline, because there was no other way of sourcing it. Doug, you said that your training centre is not completely integrated with the college.

Forgive me if I picked that up wrong, but that tells me that you are not getting what you need from the college sector in order for your business or your industry to be ready and available, and that you have to intervene significantly to get the talent and the skills shaped in the way that you want and need them to be. Is that a fair reflection of your view of what you are getting from the college sector, or is it a different picture?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Jennifer, do you have any views on the magic ingredient that we need?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

That is fascinating. Is that sort of approach happening elsewhere in Europe?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Willie Coffey

Is it possible to create courses to develop those skills at college or wherever?