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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Honestly, it is the same all the time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

From personal experience, I know that Daisy would think about going and then closer to the time would pull out, because the anxiety would be far too much for her.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

I find your attitude to be the problem, convener. Your attitude is the problem.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

I agree that many of the groups that are involved in the provision of residential outdoor education do fantastic work. Although the residential outdoor education that I received as a youngster did not make any difference to my life, I know that it has been a good thing for some people.

However, there are other ways in which outdoor activities can be provided. The bill is very limited in its scope. I am thinking of activities such as ziplines and canoeing. There are many more ways in which children can learn about leadership. Surely a compromise could be reached whereby the aims of what the member is trying to achieve could be met by taking a different—and, in some respects, a more modern—approach.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

I think you are talking about the limitations of the bill as it stands, because when I think about my 10-year-old granddaughter Daisy, who is autistic, and her additional support needs, the idea of going away to this kind of centre would absolutely terrify her. She would be up all night worrying about going to such a place. Therefore, you are quite right: there are other ways in which we can deal with these kinds of situations.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Well, it is an issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Good morning, everyone. I was struck by what Fiona Duncan said earlier, because I am an emotional guy. She said that you do not stop caring for your children at 16 and that there is language used about stopping caring for children. I get that, because my daughter is 32 today and she is in Edinburgh, and I am currently trying to negotiate for her to come visit her old da at his work, which is proving difficult. I agree with the point about language.

However, that has nothing to do with what I was going to ask about. Sheriff Mackie, you said that the bill is most notable for what is not in it. We agree that engagement was not great, but it has got better since the bill was published. As Fraser McKinlay said, not everything will be in legislation and in what we want to achieve with the bill. Fiona Duncan said that the bill is part of the process and that there might be another bill down the line or there might be other ways of doing things. As a back-bench MSP scrutinising the bill, what are the key things that you want me to look at during stage 1 and stage 2? How can we make this part of the process better?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Good morning, minister. You brought up an important point. You said that, if the financial memorandum was subject to the same level of scrutiny as the financial memorandums of Government bills are subject to, we would be hearing a completely different story from Opposition members. We are always told to follow the evidence, and when we do that, we see that the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities has severe concerns about the bill because of the costs that it would involve, which could lead to the reopening of negotiations with teachers.

Another issue is the fact that we heard evidence that many of the buildings that are used for residential outdoor education were built in the 1940s, some of them were built in the 1960s, and a number of them are in severe need of investment. I said that some of the buildings were falling down around people; other members said that I should correct that and say that they were in need of investment.

Is it not the case that the financial memorandum that is in front of us is, at best, a guesstimate and, at worst, complete fiscal fantasy? You are being asked to write a blank cheque. Surely that is not what you are here to do.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

George Adam

Thank you.