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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

Do you think that there is adequate funding provision to achieve that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

Are there any unintended consequences that you can see in the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

That is helpful—thank you.

Mr Bermingham, I will bring you in and then we will work our way along the line of witnesses. Is this the right avenue and the right funding, and could there be any unintended consequences?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

That is helpful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

My question follows on from those of Mr Kidd and Mr Rennie. Their questions were about the situation as it stands, utilising the IJB workforce and concerns about social work. For me, the best way for us to achieve the Promise that we are heading towards is the implementation of that, especially in relation to workforce planning and capacity.

We know that IJBs are struggling across the country and that a lot of them are borderline broke. Does the bill provide the right avenue to achieve the implementation and workforce planning that we are looking for; is there adequate funding for that; and, given the different sectors that you are in, can you tell us about any unintended consequences that you see as glaringly obvious in the bill as it stands? That is three questions rolled into one: is it the correct avenue as far as workforce planning is concerned; is there funding; and are there any unintended consequences in the bill?

The question is for everybody, but we will start with Margaret Smith, who is not in the room.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

If you cannot see any, that is okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

Absolutely. That is a strong point. Mr Hogg, do you wish to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Roz McCall

We are all agreed on the focus of the bill as another step towards realising the Promise, which we are all signed up to and we all agree on. However, from your perspective, is the bill going down the right avenues to get it to where it needs to be? Is it financially viable? Do you think that there will be any unintended consequences that your organisation might be concerned about?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Roz McCall

First of all, thank you for all the evidence that you have given; it has been very detailed, and I appreciate it.

I will zoom back a bit, if that is okay. All three of you have been there from the start, with the vision, and have been involved right from its inception and all the way through the process. We know where we are, and where we are trying to get to, but key to all this will be how the provisions are implemented and enacted. I have a very general question. Does the bill provide the correct avenues to achieve the aims? Does it have the money attached to do that? What unintended consequences do we need to be mindful of as we go through the process?

I am happy to hear from all three witnesses. Fraser McKinlay, your microphone light is on, so I will start with you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Roz McCall

Claire Burns, you mentioned implementation. I had real concerns about that when the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill was going through Parliament. I guess that this question will be for everybody but, from your point of view, Claire, are the avenues that the Government has chosen to make this work and to implement the changes—including the financial and workforce planning aspects and so on—the right ones to achieve the outcomes that we are trying to get to?