Skip to main content
Loading…

Seòmar agus comataidhean

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Criathragan Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 873 contributions

|

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

I am an MSP for North East Scotland.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

I will start with Angela O’Hagan, if I may. My question links to the previous one from Maggie Chapman. Angela, you have given a few concrete examples, but the question is how, in your view, has the progress against the progressive realisation of human rights in Scotland been impacted by delays to strategy, policy and legislation, such as the decision not to implement revisions to the national outcomes and the decision not introduce the human rights bill in this parliamentary session? Those things have been kicked down the road. What is your view on that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

After this session, we will have the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government and the Minister for Equalities in front of the committee. You said that there needs to be a drive from the committee—from the Parliament—and the Scottish Government. In relation to the question, what would you like us to address when the cabinet secretary and the minister come in front of us?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

Okay. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

I hear you, minister. I am not disputing what you say about organisations such as the Scottish Refugee Council and the need to ensure that people who are the most marginalised have a voice, but this committee is about scrutiny and accountability. Today’s session is about accountability, and you cannot delegate accountability.

It has recently been reported that, since 2017, the SNP Government has given £20 million of handouts from the public purse—taxpayers’ money—to third sector organisations that support self-identification. My question to the minister, and to the cabinet secretary, is: will Scottish ministers commit to working with Inspiring Scotland and other relevant parties to withdraw funding from groups that promote unlawful policies? Some of the policies that they are promoting are not only unsafe but unlawful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

You have not answered the question. You said earlier that you will look at organisations that are not spending the money where you have directed that they spend the money, which is laudable and important, because it is taxpayers’ money. On the £20 million, the question was: will you make sure that funding is withdrawn from organisations that are breaking the law? Will you ask Inspiring Scotland, which is your fund manager, to make sure that it does a stock check of those organisations that are breaking the law? That is the question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

In the previous evidence session, we heard the Scottish Human Rights Commission talk about quality assurance. Will the Scottish Government—you are the cabinet secretary, and we have the minister here, too—ensure that there is quality assurance so that the organisations that you fund are not operating unlawfully? That is my final question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

I will pass back to the convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

My next question is for Emma Congreve. The feedback that we have been given this morning is that there is, as Angela O’Hagan put it, a

“gap between narrative and practice.”

We hear these words, but it is quite damning that, although something is said, nothing happens and things are kicked down the road. In your view, does the Scottish Government’s positive narrative in the equality and fairer Scotland budget statement and in its budget responses to the committee reflect the reality in relation to policy impact and the changes that it has made to budget processes, data and documentation?

You are smiling, Emma.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Tess White

We hear you loud and clear on those very important points. The mood music can quickly turn sour if there is no delivery. I read in the papers today about carers going on strike. People have had enough if their basic needs are not being met. I also refer to the point that Emma Congreve made about the Pareto principle and the focus on the few important things. We had an example this morning of people being locked up. The committee learned about the huge percentage of women and girls with learning difficulties who are being sexually assaulted. That resonated loud and clear. The Promise, social security and violence against women and girls have also been mentioned. As I said, we hear you loud and clear.

The next evidence session is with the Minister for Equalities and the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, and it is our job to take what you have shared with us this morning, and what we have heard over the past few months, and to present it to the Scottish Government—so, thank you.