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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. My questions will focus on the content of the annual report in terms of the funding and finance of SCoSS. From the 2023-24 annual report, we saw that expenditure would exceed the budget in 2024-25. That was not a huge overspend—it was £470,000 compared to the projected spend of £450,000. The committee is interested to know whether that has been resolved and whether there is a view about the financial sustainability of SCoSS going forward?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

Do you feel that you are now in a position where the budget planning process will be easier because—to borrow a phrase—known unknowns are perhaps lessened by where we are in the process of transfer? Are you finding that the engagement with the Government on your needs—saying, “Here is a need. How do we get to the budget figure that will work for us?”—is a communicative and open process?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

It sounds as though, given the timing, with more and more people either accessing new benefits or being transferred to benefits, it is probably quite crucial that the lived experience piece is at the forefront of what you are doing.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

That is helpful. You referred to the increase in the secretariat, and it was good to hear Judith Paterson talk about getting up to full capacity with board members and those sorts of things. Has that changed the way that SCoSS works? I have heard that you feel that you are being efficient but also that you can respond to things. Is that the secretariat's role in particular?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

In that case, I am wondering about the legacy of regulation that will be held over from this parliamentary session until the next session. The minister is right to say that we have to go through an election and a Government has to be formed, but do officials have a view on the timescale for the work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

That will be useful to the committee when we write our legacy report to hand over to whoever comes next.

A number of non-Government amendments to the then Children (Scotland) Bill that were agreed to introduced various provisions, not least on child advocacy services under section 21 and alternative dispute resolution under sections 23 and 24. At the moment, there is no plan for implementing them. It would be useful if the Government placed on record its policy intention in relation to implementing those provisions. I appreciate that that will probably be done in the next parliamentary session, not this one.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. Given the policy criticisms of the lack of regulation of child welfare reporters, implementation of the regulatory regime that is proposed for them—how that will be carried out—is important. Does the Government intend to implement the regime for child welfare reporters in this parliamentary session or the next? If it is going to be in the next session, is there a best estimate for when that will happen and come into effect?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. I think that it is fair to say that there have been mixed views on the second national BSL plan. For example, many users have said that it lacks focus, measurable goals, timelines and accountability. It would be useful to hear your broad views on the second national BSL plan and how it assists with the development of local plans.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

That is why I asked the question. The evidence that we heard was from people who use BSL. The contention was that the users of the language must be at the heart of the process. It is useful to hear that the cabinet secretary is open to that suggestion. I am sure that the committee will want to reflect on that as part of its work.

I will hand back to the convener. I hope that those questions were substantive enough.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Paul O'Kane

There are two points in what you have just said. One is that you do not recognise that the draft plan have been watered down; however, you do recognise that such criticism has been made of it.

Rachel O’Neill from Moray house school of sport and education at the University of Edinburgh was consulted on the plan, and her research with Dr Rob Wilks of University of the West of England in Bristol was incorporated into the draft version. Their view was that recommendations had been watered down or removed, and they were disappointed with that. It would be useful for the committee to understand why that decision was taken in the final draft and why people feel that things have been watered down.

On your last point on progress being measured in tangible outcomes, a lot of the criticism is to do with there not being measurable things in the plan. There is not a sense that we will measure targets. I appreciate that you are saying today that that will be the case, but is it your view that there should be measurable outcomes?