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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

A very good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2026 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 5 in private. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a negative Scottish statutory instrument. I refer members to paper 1, which sets out the purpose of the instrument.

I note that we have seen a number of such orders for the firefighters’ pension scheme in which the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee have picked up on issues relating to the drafting of the instrument. I very much hope that the Scottish Government is taking note of that.

As members do not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the negative instrument, do we agree that we are content for it to come into force?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a proposal by the Scottish Government to consent to the United Kingdom Government legislating in a devolved area, as set by a proposed UK statutory instrument on the North Atlantic Salmon Conservation and North-East Atlantic Fisheries Commission Privileges and Immunities Revocation Regulations 2026. I refer members to paper 2.

The purpose of the regulations is to revoke existing orders for these fisheries bodies that relate to privileges and immunities and to pave the way for replacing them with new orders in order to clarify privileges and immunities and to improve and maintain compliance with international law obligations.

Our role is to decide whether we wish to approve the proposal to consent to the UK SI. Do we agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

That completes our consideration of agenda items in public. We move into private session.

10:05

Meeting continued in private until 11:03.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Ms Gosal. Certainly, there is no doubt about your passion and commitment to the bill. I will kick off with a broad question. As you will be aware, the majority of organisational evidence that the committee has heard reflects a lack of support, to be blunt, about the bill’s ability to achieve the aims that you have set out and that you are clearly passionate about. As succinctly as possible, what evidence do you have that the bill as drafted would achieve a reduction in domestic abuse offences, and reoffending in particular?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Rona Mackay before we move to questions on part 2 of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I will conclude that line of questioning.

For Ms Gosal’s benefit, I add that the practice across agencies that are responding to domestic abuse nowadays certainly does take into account the need to minimise trauma and, therefore, a lot of information sharing across organisations is done with consent. I share the concerns that Jamie Hepburn alluded to with regard to the risk that some of the data collection proposals in the bill might compromise trauma-informed approaches.

We move on to part 4, on school education, with questions from Katy Clark. Any other members who wish to ask questions on this theme can indicate that to the clerk.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

The other part of my question related to the fact that existing processes do not necessarily require a criminal conviction for interventions to take place. Part 1 of the bill is obviously different in that regard. I am thinking back to Detective Superintendent Brown’s assertion that the fact that someone has a criminal conviction does not necessarily reflect the full or totality of the risk that someone may face. I am interested in your reflections on that point.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I am sorry, but I will have to close this down and draw a line under that questioning. We are very much over time, and I think that we have got the gist of the point about the variance in costing.

I thank our witnesses—Ms Gosal and her colleagues—for coming along to what has been a robust session, and we will now move into private session.

11:09 Meeting continued in private until 13:08.  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Staying with questions on part 1 of the bill, I will bring in Jamie Hepburn, to be followed by Pauline McNeill.