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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
I presume that if it was a small figure, you could scratch around in the Government coffers and find it, but what if it was in the millions?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Absolutely. We all share that view.
I have a final question in this section, before I let other members come in, although I will come back later to talk about the future of the yard. My question is about a general feeling that I get from what I have heard this morning and from some of the other commentary that we have had.
Mr Irwin, you said in your opening statement that the failings were unacceptable, and I thank you for that. All the blame, though, seems to have been put at the door of Mr Tydeman, the former CEO, but he is just one of a number of CEOs who have been through the revolving door of Ferguson Marine over the years. This is just an observation, but I get the impression that he has been made something of a scapegoat for many of the long-term failings in delivering the project on time and on budget.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
At the moment, the yard is obviously striving to secure new business. I have no view on this, but does the fact that the yard is publicly owned—or state owned, if you prefer that terminology—inhibit or improve its ability to compete for, tender for and win new business? That has never really been clear to me.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
You talked about a couple of potential orders. I recall my first visit to the yard, in 2016, when I sat with the then owner of the yard in the boardroom, where I am sure you have had a number of meetings over the years. I was given a very lengthy presentation about the pipeline of business that it was pitching and bidding for and the business that it was in advanced conversations about. To my knowledge, not one of those possibilities came to fruition or came to pass due to the situation that the yard found itself in, the receivership and eventual nationalisation. The list of business that it was pitching for was very long.
You mentioned that there are potentially a couple of contracts coming through. What I am getting at is whether, when the Glen Rosa sets sail later this year, we hope, there will still be 290 people working in the yard. Will there be enough business to keep them in work?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Are you saying that you can be beaten on price because Turkey and countries in Asia and in the middle east will build ships cheaper, for many different reasons, including reasons that perhaps we would not agree with, such as the conditions for their workforce, how much they pay their staff, and their health and safety records—the things that we like to excel at in our shipbuilding community in Scotland? Therefore, is your plea to the Government that, that issue aside, it should look at the wider macroeconomic benefits of putting this work into Inverclyde? Is that what you are saying?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Well, the time is now. I am asking whether that is the current intention.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
That is great. My final question is on the finances that were mentioned earlier. I am looking for reassurance that funding for any cost overruns that the yard identifies as arising in the next couple of weeks or months will be met through additional funds provided by the Scottish Government. None of that should come from the money that has been put aside for capital investment to improve and upgrade the yard or from any other part of its existing budget.
I mention that because it is exactly what happened last time. The Scottish Government gave the yard money, by way of loans, for the stated purpose of improving its infrastructure. We all know that that money got soaked up in the Glen Sannox cost overruns—that was the reality of the matter—and I am looking for comfort that that will not be the case again.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Let us get this right. The budget, if it is agreed to, will allocate around £47 million to the yard, of which £37 million will be used to complete the Glen Rosa, and there is £14 million of capital money. Also, £9 million of the capital money will be allocated to the Glen Rosa. Is that correct?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Perhaps you can write to us and outline that. We asked Audit Scotland about that previously, and there was a lot of confusion over the numbers.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Jamie Greene
Let us segue nicely to the Scottish Government. Would that request be granted?