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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
Do you feel that you are not able to properly rehabilitate people?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
Have there been further fines since then?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
Thank you, and good morning to the panel. I will start with a supplementary to close the GEOAmey line of questioning before I move on to my main lines of questioning—it is really in response to Willie Coffey’s questions about the penalties. I understand that, over the past couple of years, GEOAmey has been fined around £4 million for breach of contract. Is that correct?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
And receiving public money and being fined—simply being given more money in return for failure.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
I am sure that there are other providers out there that would have doubled their rates overnight in such a scenario.
I would like to come on to my main line of questions, which are about the wider prison estate and population. Some of those have been covered, but some important issues have been raised. Teresa Medhurst, I was particularly concerned by some of the language that was used earlier in the session. The phrase that the Scottish Prison Service used was “on the brink”—on the brink of what?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
It sounds to me that we are not getting to a point of danger—we are already in the danger zone. Seven prisons in Scotland are coded red, which I presume is quite serious. We have heard that you are reaching capacity and in some cases are over capacity in prisons. Overnight, this could bubble over into serious conditions for staff and prisoners. That sounds to me like the worst possible scenario. What could get worse in our prisons other than rioting and mass insurrection?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
We should commend the work of the prison staff. Having been on other committees and have visited some of these places, I understand that. Still, we have moved a long way since even my last visit to Saughton.
What is the maximum capacity when we absolutely cannot take any more? What happens when we get to that point? What physically happens when you reach maximum capacity? What does the Prison Service do?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
Mr Rennick, what are those options? What are ministers considering?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
We are not far off that stage. We are hearing that we are one bad weekend away from reaching the critical point at which ministers would have to come to Parliament and ask for the power to release prisoners. Is that where we are at?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Jamie Greene
It was the best run, but she said it should be bulldozed. We have to reflect on that.