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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2024
Jamie Greene
I was trying to let you off the hook a little bit there, but okay.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2024
Jamie Greene
Anybody who speaks to local authorities will know that they are really struggling. For example, there are simply not enough places in care homes and there are not enough staff to treat people in their own homes. Frankly, when someone is in a hospital environment, that is not seen as the local authorities’ problem; it is the NHS’s problem. There does not seem to be any joined-up thinking. I appreciate what you say about integration boards but, for far too many people, the system is simply not working. If it was working, we would not have so many people in delayed discharge or struggling to get a place in a care home, and we would not have so many people having to pay to go private.
Do you admit that there is an issue? Given the numbers that we have just spoken about and that things are getting worse, not better, it sounds a bit like an emergency that we need to deal with.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2024
Jamie Greene
Just before you go on, that is way off target.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2024
Jamie Greene
Yes, but not everyone who presents at A and E will need to stay overnight or will need a bed. They simply need to be seen by somebody. Are you looking at that?
10:15Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
Just to be clear, it was not a performance-related issue. There were no operational issues. It was solely, as you said, a policy decision. I will not use the word “political”, as that would not be fair on you, but it was certainly a ministerial decision that the Government wanted to go in that direction of travel, irrespective of the cost.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
In your previous appearance before the committee, which I will not revisit, we talked quite extensively about the pressures on the prison population. Where is HMP Kilmarnock in that regard? Is it one of the ones in the red? Is it nearing capacity? Do we have any issues there?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
You cannot go through a supermarket without being greeted by somebody with a body-worn camera. It seems odd that our prison staff do not have them.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
We look forward to that.
My second question is about PFI contracts, where there is still a bit more digging to be done and other members might do that. I am still a bit confused about how many such contracts are coming to an end in the next couple of years and what the cost to the public purse will be. We may revisit that before we end this evidence session, but do you expect those contracts to come to a natural end or are ministers mooting an early contract termination on some of them? There is a difference there and I presume there is a cost.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
That would be helpful. I know that we said that the focus is on money but it is important to bear in mind that we are dealing with people.
My final question is about an issue that came up towards the end of last year. When Serco left the prison, did it take all the body-worn cameras away, or do the staff there at the moment still have them?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Jamie Greene
I will shrink my questions into two. Mr Rennick, you will be aware of the constraints on the Government’s capital investment. A number of infrastructure projects have been paused and there will be no investment in them. Much of that decision will have direct consequences for your portfolio and new schools and prisons, for example. Other portfolios across the health sector, housing and so on will feel the same.
In the scenario in which the Government is saying that it does not have the cash to build this stuff up front, is there now an expectation that a shift to a different financing model will be inevitable? In other words, the private sector will stump up the cash up front and the Government will simply pay them back over a very long period of time. I appreciate that might not be the political thing to do in terms of the ministerial direction of travel, but from a value for money point of view, should that be considered?
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