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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 March 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

I will make a brief contribution. I understand the difficulty of the timing, but I am deeply uncomfortable that the committee is almost being bounced into agreeing this motion—and I do not mean that in a pejorative way. I just find it deeply unsatisfactory to agree to a motion that we know will not be actioned next March, and I do not entirely understand why it cannot be changed. If it meant that the committee or the Parliament would have to sit during recess, that would be fine in my view—there are more than 40 days between now and 16 August. It is better to do things right, rather than quickly.

However, I appreciate that we do not have that choice, so I do not expect to vote against the motion. Indeed, it is for those reasons that I will vote for it. My observation on the substantive amendments that we looked at is that, although they might be the right way to go—and I listened to Mark Ruskell’s questions in this respect—I still find it difficult to understand why, given what we heard earlier, this has not at the least been discussed with the UK Government. The minister could have said, “Look, events of the past few weeks have caused changes to the Scottish scheme. Why are we not trying to make sure that there is alignment so that there will be no further changes?”

That is just an observation, however. I appreciate the situation that the minister has set out. For that reason, I am likely to vote for the regulations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning, minister. Prior to deciding to pause the scheme, did the Scottish Government take formal legal advice on the impact of that decision?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

Did the Government take advice specifically on the decision to pause the scheme? It is a yes or no question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

There is no longer any scheme to administer, which presumably means that business cannot continue to support CSL. Will the Scottish Government fund CSL in future? If not, what will happen to CSL?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

What is the nature of the £9 million start-up funding for CSL from the Scottish National Investment Bank? What will happen to that investment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

Oh dear.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

If its source of funding decides not to fund it because there is no scheme to administer in the immediate future, how will CSL keep going? How will it fund itself, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

Do standing orders prevent the consideration of regulations during a recess?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

I do not follow that, so I will press the minister, if I may. I am deeply uncomfortable that we are about to pass—you hope—regulations that move the date of implementation to March 2024, when this committee knows that that will not happen. It feels to me like the committee has been asked to agree to laws that we know are not competent and will not come in. Why are the regulations not expressed simply to say that they will not come into force on 16 August but will come in on a date in the future—or something—so that we do not pin them to a date that we know to be false?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Liam Kerr

Are you saying that no contingency has been made or that you do not know whether a contingency has been made?