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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

It is Collette Stevenson.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Our focus is on all aspects of women in the justice system. Far too many women in prison have mental health problems or have been victims of domestic abuse and are brain injured. There are huge issues that we need to look at. The cross-party group on women’s justice made a start on that work in the previous parliamentary session, and I hope that, in this session, we can dig deep into the issues and try to effect a lot of change.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

When I was the convener of the cross-party group on women’s justice, which was formed in 2018, it became increasingly clear that what we were discussing involved children and families, too. There was already a cross-party group on families affected by imprisonment, and its members regularly attended and contributed to our group’s meetings. As a result, it seemed logical and sensible to merge the two groups in this parliamentary session, given that we shared the same agenda on many occasions and spoke about the same problems faced by women going through the justice system and the effect on their wider families.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you very much.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Yes.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That was part of the work of the previous group, and, now that the units are nearing completion, we are very keen to press the need for contact between mothers and children. We are asking for mother-and-baby units to be part of these establishments in order to allow mothers to bond with their babies instead of being separated from them. As I said, it has been part of our work—we have taken evidence on it from the Scottish Prison Service on many occasions—and we very much see such work as on-going and necessary.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

One such measure would be highlighting the huge issues that women on remand face. There are still far too many women on remand and in custody. Although we are 10 years on from the Angiolini report, which concluded that we have to stop locking women up for low-level offences, that is still happening. There are many causes of such offending—addiction problems, mental health problems, chaotic lifestyles and so on—and, at that level, prison is not the place for women. Our objective is to keep pressing the issue and to look at what are pretty radical new ways of keeping women out of prison. After all, prison does not help them; indeed, it just makes the situation that they find themselves in much worse, given the mental health effects, and so on. Moreover, it affects not just them but the wider family and their children. Only 5 per cent of children whose mother is in prison remain in the family home, which indicates how disruptive such an approach is. We are focusing on all aspects of how the situation could be improved and on how a much more holistic method might be brought in.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That is really interesting and helpful. Do you have an end point for that? Are you working within a timescale to produce that evidence?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I see that we have Leeanne Hughes back online. Leeanne, I do not know whether you heard my question. I will not go through it all again. Your submission refers to women whose tolerance to drugs reduces during their sentences, and they often overdose when they come out. You say that that has been a problem during Covid because of the lack of access to GPs. Could you expand on that, please?