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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Okay. It was just the term that you used. I wanted to give you the chance to explain what you have just explained.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Finally, is everyone in favour of legal representation for victims?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

You also said that the jury is not there to find the truth, that it is for the legal system to prove the offence and that, if it does not, it is a failing of the Crown. Do you understand why victims feel crushed and let down by a not proven verdict? They feel that the system is weighted against them and in favour of the accused, for the reasons that you have outlined. Many witnesses have said to us that they would much rather have had a not guilty verdict than a not proven verdict, because they are left in limbo.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Why would that be? I know that that must be laid down somewhere, but do you think that it is fair that nobody knows?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Obviously, it is not to identify people, but even having the numbers would be at least some information.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

I have a short supplementary question on the conviction rate in sexual offence cases. Laura, will the Lord Advocate’s recent ruling that distress can be used as evidence have an impact on the conviction rates?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you. That is helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rona Mackay

—and that, after decades of campaigning, there is still confusion. That speaks volumes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rona Mackay

That must have been difficult.