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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

No?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Well, you could raise the percentage.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I have a small supplementary question on regional recall. I think that I know how you will answer this, but I would like you to put it on the record.

As I understand it, the Welsh threshold for recall is 10 per cent of the voters across the region, and then it goes to the next person on the list. That is straightforward. I think that I know what you are going to say, but I just want you to put it on the record. Why did you not choose that system?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

We have heard concerns that the requirement might disadvantage members of underrepresented groups or people with certain responsibilities, such as caring responsibilities—mostly women. Do you accept that, or do you stand by your earlier point that you think that they should make the effort to come in?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

How would the actual counting of when someone was in be done? Who would be responsible for monitoring that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

—-and still have the simpler system of going to the next person on the list.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I agree with a lot of what you say. I just want to pick up a couple of things. You said that, at the moment, someone can decide not to come in, but they have to answer to the whips. Believe me, we have to have a rigorous reason why we are not coming in, unless it is a long-term issue and there are good reasons.

The other phrase that jumped out at me when you were answering the convener was when you said “not performing properly”. I suggest that that is very subjective, and you do not set that out in the bill. That is a wee bit of a grey area, because you do not list the criteria for that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Yes—that was my point.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Okay. That is fine.

Can you explain why you do not consider remote attendance a valid means of attendance?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Yes, and would we be sitting here saying that we had had a request to look into whether a certain person had broken the rules?