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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

You would be confident that, with what exists currently, the outcome that the bill proposes could be achieved. In other words, there is a gap that is not filled and you are saying that it could be filled by the existing structures. I am not hearing that, so that is what I am trying to get at. Surely, we need to implement a structure that stands alone, as they have in England.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Is there a danger of a patchy system and a postcode lottery if that happens, with some bodies adhering to guidance and others not doing so? Surely, the people of Scotland should have confidence that they can go to a system if they have suffered a tragic loss.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Thank you—that is helpful. Fiona Drouet, do you want to come in on any of that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

My question is for Fiona Drouet. Fulton MacGregor mentioned the film that his constituent produced and your very powerful part in it. In that film, and in your submission, you talk about how you felt let down by the university’s response and how it had missed some vital signs that something had gone wrong. Is it your understanding that things have changed in the past nine years?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Well done for all the work that you have done. It has made a huge difference.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

I totally understand. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Thank you—that is really helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

That is good—thank you. Dr Scott, I want to come to you on my question about a comparison with the English system. Do you have any comment on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Absolutely—I get that. Earlier, you said that you agreed with Dr Emma Forbes about the definition being too wide. She said that she felt that it diluted the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018, which is regarded as the gold standard. Is that your view, too? Will you expand on how you would like us to refine the definition?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

I have a quick final question for Marsha Scott. Your submission says that

“the criminal history of the abuser that relates in any way to the perpetration of domestic abuse against the current victim”

should be made available to the review. Will you talk about that, please?