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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
We have heard some very valid points from all of our witnesses today. The one thing that we would probably agree on is that there is a consensus for change and that everybody agrees that there are huge issues with the current system.
It is a mistake to think that the Government is not listening to your concerns—I think that it is. From what you are saying, the issue is one of timing. I get that, but I do not think that there is any value in trying to backtrack; we just are where we are now. I do not think that there is any possibility of the bill being rushed through and your concerns being ignored. We should always bear in mind that the bill itself is a framework bill to allow the Government to start the process of change. The co-design part of it is where you come in. That said, I get your point about timing, and I am not disputing it.
You have answered questions on a lot of things. My question now is: if more consultation and engagement were offered to you at this stage, would that allay some of your concerns? Would it allay some of the concerns of your members, Kate and Lynsey, and those of COSLA? It is a matter of being realistic, given the point that we are at.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
Expanding on that a wee bit, we have been reassured that the new women’s custody units will go ahead as planned, following on from the two that are already up and running. Is that the case?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
Great. That is good to know.
I have one more question, and I suspect that my colleagues will have further questions in the same area. I understand that the replacements for HMP Greenock and HMP Dumfries are not currently a priority in the capital budget. Will they be added anytime soon? I know that that is like asking, “How long is a piece of string?”, but are they still in the pipeline?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
I am just struggling to understand why it would be in the Government’s interests to do its own thing and not listen to you. I do not think that that is what is intended. It does not make sense that the Government would not take into account what you are saying. I come back to the issue of timing, which is something that we cannot really do anything about just now.
Anyway, thank you. You have made good points.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
For what it is worth, I think that your idea of holding workshops is a good one.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
Great.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
Thank you. I know that my colleagues will have further questions on that.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
My question relates to the courts and prosecution services. Before I ask it, I note that it is interesting and important that Conservative committee members have been asking overtly political questions—and, when the cabinet secretary responds with straightforward and honest answers, they do not like it.
Cabinet secretary, I will be interested to know about something that you touched on in your opening statement: the priority for funding to be given to Lady Dorrian’s review, the prosecution of rape and sex offences, and the work of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service Covid unit. I turn first to Lady Dorrian’s review. Will budgetary implications affect that?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
It is good to know that it is still very much on track.
I turn to the effect of court backlogs on the victims of domestic abuse. I understand that, because of the specific nature of those cases, they will take priority when it comes to clearing the backlog.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 November 2022
Rona Mackay
That is really encouraging to know.