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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

On your point about retaliation, Shakti Women’s Aid brought up the issue that a woman who retaliated in self-defence could end up on the register. How would you respond to that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Do you think that it is appropriate to say that we should give it a chance?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

No—that is what you said 10 minutes ago.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

You said those words.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Yes, I will quickly ask about that. The minister told us that there are opportunities to progress aspects that would come under part 3 of the bill by using non-legislative measures and that the domestic abuse justice partners round table has been carrying out

“a data-mapping exercise, including identifying ... gaps and ... opportunities ... for improvement.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 17 December 2025; c 10.]

What is your response to that? What would the provisions in your bill achieve that non-legislative means would not?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Have you pressed the Government on that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Do you understand that the thresholds are very important?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

We take that point seriously, because it was made by someone who works with domestic abuse victims day in, day out. They raised that issue, which I thought was quite alarming.

I will move on. I have a concern, which we have also heard from witnesses, that the register would duplicate work that is already being done. I also go back to my colleague Jamie Hepburn’s point about the administrative burden. I want you to give us your views on whether you think that that is the case.

I have to admit that I was a bit alarmed when I heard you say that we should give this bill a chance. Do you think that it is appropriate to introduce legislation to give it a chance?

I also need you to be clear that you do not think that duplication would be a problem.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

I appreciate your conviction that that is the case, but we must take into account the evidence that we have heard from other people. If every bill in the Parliament was introduced just to be given a chance, that would be ludicrous. I am pointing out that that amplifies my concerns that there might be an overlegislation problem here.

You say that the bill would complement existing systems, and I appreciate that that is your view, but we have heard evidence that it would lead to a duplication of work that is already being done. I am just putting that out there. That is one of my major concerns about the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Rona Mackay

Were you quoting someone else, or is it your thought that we should give it a chance?