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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

If you are very brief.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

We continue our scrutiny of the Scottish Government’s proposed stage 2 amendments to the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill with our third panel of witnesses. I welcome Fiona Collie, who is head of public affairs and communications at Carers Scotland; Dr Jim Elder-Woodward OBE, who is co-convener of Inclusion Scotland; Frank McKillop, who is director of governance and policy at Enable Scotland; and Adam Stachura, who is associate director for policy, communications and external affairs at Age Scotland. Jim Elder-Woodward is supported by a representative from Inclusion Scotland.

We move straight to questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

I have a few follow-up questions on issues that other committee members have raised. Councillor Kelly, I heard you say a few times that you had only an hour to read the amendments before they were published. Of course, they are draft amendments at the moment; they have not been voted on.

Joe FitzPatrick asked a specific question about COSLA amendments, which I did not hear answered. Has COSLA drafted amendments for stage 2?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

I have a few follow-up questions on issues that other committee members have raised. Councillor Kelly, I heard you say a few times that you had only an hour to read the amendments before they were published. Of course, they are draft amendments at the moment; they have not been voted on.

Joe FitzPatrick asked a specific question about COSLA amendments, which I did not hear answered. Has COSLA drafted amendments for stage 2?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

The next item on our agenda is a concluding evidence session that forms part of our scrutiny of the Scottish Government’s proposed stage 2 amendments to the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the committee Eddie Follan, who is the chief officer in health and social care, and Councillor Paul Kelly, who is spokesperson for health and social care, both from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities. We are also expecting Louise Long, who is the chief executive of Inverclyde Council, to join us. She will be representing the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers in Scotland. We will move straight to questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

That was in February initially, but significant amendments to the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill were published in response to that over the summer, which is essentially why the committee is sitting here rescrutinising the proposals.

Councillor Kelly, you mentioned that service users direct us at local level—you said how important service users’ input is into providing services. What discussions has COSLA had with stakeholder groups about the withdrawal of support from the NCS bill, either before or since?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

We may come back to some of that if our members have questions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

So, if things remain as is, we can expect to see COSLA amendments.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Clare Haughey

So, you did not have discussions before, and you have not had them since, specifically on that issue.