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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
Thank you.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
I call Gillian Mackay.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
I thank the witnesses for their attendance at the meeting this morning. The meeting will be suspended to change panels.
10:42 Meeting suspended.Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
Welcome back. We are continuing to take oral evidence as part of the committee’s stage 1 scrutiny of the Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill.
The committee will now hear from a second panel of witnesses, comprising representatives of professional organisations. I welcome Dr Peter Rice, who is a former chair of the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland; Lyndsey Turfus, who is chair of the substance use sub-group at Social Work Scotland; and Dr Chris Williams, who is vice-chair of the Royal College of General Practitioners in Scotland. We will move straight to questions, and we will start with Sandesh Gulhane.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
I have a point of clarification for Hilary Steele on the McCulloch case, which she mentioned. I am also aware of the Montgomery case. Is there potential that the bill as drafted, if it became law, could run counter to those judgments, given that it specifies that certain treatment options must be offered?
10:15Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
Before we move on, I declare an interest: I hold a bank nurse contract with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
I have a short, sharp question about the clinicians who are involved in making those treatment determinations. My assumption, which is based on the bill and on listening to the previous witness panel, was that the clinicians would be NHS employees. However, if we look at who can actually make a determination, the list includes doctors, who may not be employed by the health service, and pharmacist prescribers, many of whom work in community pharmacies and are therefore contracted to the NHS for some, but not all, services. What is your opinion on that cohort of healthcare professionals, including advanced nurse prescribers, being determined in law as being able to make treatment determinations?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
I do not want to take up an inordinate amount of time because I know that there are lots of questions, but there seems to be a working assumption, given the cohort of staff defined in the bill, that NHS staff will be making the treatment determinations. However, as I said, some of those healthcare professionals do not work for the NHS. For example, we have GPs and pharmacists who are independent contractors. Does that cause you any concern?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
That is fine; thank you.
We move to questions from Elena Whitham.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Clare Haughey
Brian Whittle has a brief supplementary.