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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I guess that the challenge is moving from generally to always.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I thank all the witnesses for their time and participation. You have all made really interesting opening remarks, and I want to build on some of those points, particularly what you said at the end of your remarks, Tracey McFall. One of the issues that the committee is probing is the reasons why people use substances in prison. I appreciate that that is a broad question, but do you want to say more about the reasons and contributing factors that are beyond the prison walls, so to speak, as well as within the institution? It would be good to hear your thoughts on those matters.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Thank you, all. Sorry—I see that Dr Rogers wants to come in.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I am curious—witnesses have talked about the lack of consistency of rehabilitation and support inside prisons, and I have heard from my constituents about cases that are similarly concerning. We have talked for years about there being a lack connection on release and a lack of consistency in the support for people when they are released or bailed. What do you think we need to do to create that consistency, collaboration and coherence in relation to the NHS and GPs; housing and local authorities; Social Security Scotland and the Department for Work and Pensions; and third sector support, including the work that many of the witnesses are doing? How do we create that comprehensive package of what people need when they are bailed or released? From everything that you have said, and from what I have heard previously, what others have heard and what has been analysed and published, that package seems so key—not only to help the people who are affected, although that is the most important aspect, but to deal with the issues of overcrowding and to change the position in Scotland in the number of people who are incarcerated.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Does somebody need to hold that coherence together and to drive it?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
You are talking about what happens in prisons, but how do we make the process more consistent for people when they are released or bailed?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I appreciate that point. Everyone has their individual needs, and we want to take a person-centred approach, appreciating that there will be local differences, particularly with regard to geography, demography and third sector provision, for example. However, is there a more generic set of minimum requirements that needs to be enhanced or further agreed, to ensure that we do not have a situation of somebody leaving prison and, because there are not the required connections, going into temporary accommodation or being unable to access the prescription drugs that they have had in prison for a condition? I am aware of what local authorities and partnerships do, for example, in the area that I represent, but is there a greater need for consistency across the country?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Of course, in most cases, that is applicable to people who have had challenges with addiction before going into prison—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
My colleagues will come in with questions on considerations outside prison, which are, of course, vital. I want to pick up some of those really helpful contributions. Is the very serious challenge of overcrowding that we face a contributing factor to all this?