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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
There was no formal meeting.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Thank you. I have one final question. You spoke earlier about how you and your team have progressed the preparation of the bill, including the drafting, the evidence and the research. If the bill were to proceed to stage 2, would you be looking to engage with the Government to utilise its facilities for legal drafting, to get advice on competence, and on all the other points that would need to be satisfied in order to produce an implementable and appropriate piece of legislation?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Yes; early this year. Thank you for correcting me.
There is quite a long time between 2022 and 2025, and that surprises me, if I am honest. I appreciate that a consultation has been done, but how much engagement did you have with the Scottish Government on the issues?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Have you engaged with the Scottish Government?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
The reason I ask is that the bill was talked about in that period from 2022 until its publication in 2025. However, during that time, for example, the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill was published and is now at stage 3. It surprises me that your bill was significantly discussed in the public domain and in the media before the proposals had been established. In your discussion of the bill in the parliamentary arena, the media and other public ways, there were many references to a domestic abuse register, but that is not referred to in the bill. If you want effective practical change in the legal system, I am surprised that you have not engaged with the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill and that you have not looked at the part of the Education (Scotland) Bill that is about education as a possible vehicle for change. That would seem like a more practicable way to change the law, rather than spending four years talking about a member’s bill before its publication. It perplexes me that you did not do that.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I thank Ash Regan and her team for being here today and for all the work that they have put into tackling the issue.
How do you envisage enforcement being undertaken? Earlier, you spoke very powerfully about how existing law has helped to tackle street prostitution, and the challenge that we face in the 21st century with indoor prostitution. I would be interested to hear more about how you think that enforcement would be done.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
I have a few further questions. In the policy memorandum, you cite the different jurisdictions to substantiate what you said earlier, which is helpful for the Parliament.
Liam Kerr asked about the effect of criminalising the purchasing of sex. Will you say a bit more about the effect, as you see it, of decriminalising the sale of sex and any potential effect on enforcement?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
When was that?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Ben Macpherson
That was in 2024. Did you meet the previous justice secretary, Keith Brown?