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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that it is not simple.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have a question that was provoked by something that Dr Victoria Marland said earlier, but it also relates to things that other witnesses have said. You talked about the success of the photocopying initiative and you said that, because of its impact, there is now a trend of synthetic substances coming into prisons in powder form. Whether it would be appropriate to answer now or to follow up privately, it would be good to have an understanding of how that is happening. Is it through drone deliveries or other ways? How are substances in powder form entering the prison estate? If you would prefer to follow up by email, we will totally understand.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that that makes the situation even more challenging because of the impact of just a small amount of synthetic substance. Thanks for relaying that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for putting that so succinctly.

Briefly, on solutions in that same space, are there things that we could do or things that we could change that would help to make a difference? I absolutely appreciate that the vast majority of prison staff are, to use your word, incorruptible, but, to build on what my colleagues have already asked, could more be done to address the very small minority who are vulnerable to corruption?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

So, the process is not robust enough right now.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

That should be done in the early stages, when they feel vulnerable. Again, overcrowding is a key factor.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Do you feel that all of that could be more robust than it is right now?

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I was just reflecting on the fact that there are actors who are trying to pull people into addiction at the same time that services are trying to fill their time with other activities, including rehabilitation. That is important for us to consider.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

There is also the difference that preventative spend can make through savings in the criminal justice system more widely.