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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
Thank you.
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
It sounds as though you are saying that we should claw back the college funding mechanism, which is based on credits—I will not go down that rabbit hole with the committee this morning—and use a model that seeks to leverage private sector investment. That would require redirecting the money that is put into the college credit system. Is that what you are advocating?
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
That is a big uncertainty when running an organisation, is it not?
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
I will move on to my questions on scale and pace, which in a sense follow on from what Jamie Halcro Johnston asked about. You said that, a year ago, you were a bit frustrated, but we now have the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill. To reflect on the process a little, it is two years since you reported and three years since you were asked to do the review, and it all stemmed from an Audit Scotland report in 2021. Therefore, we will probably be five years on from that report before we see legislation being enacted and progressing, and it is only on the structure. Are you confident that we are moving at sufficient pace to deliver change?
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
I am amused by that last comment, given some of our discussions about whether we should call them SCQF qualifications or highers. It is a good point.
I want to take you back to your proposal that we merge the funding streams, so that the funding is all in one place, to stop the either/or. We all understand the logic, but is there not a danger that we have been down that path before? The Scottish Funding Council was created through a merger of the Scottish Higher Education Funding Council and the Scottish Further Education Funding Council, yet, when we look at how the funding streams work, that merger did not produce the integration that was hoped for. Is there not a danger that we are pursuing structural change that will not actually deliver that? That way of doing things has been tried before and it did not work.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
You should ignore me until you are finished.
11:15Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
[Inaudible.]—decisions within your own stated timeframes.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
I both completely agree and completely disagree. The fundamental point here is that a very significant number of the microeconomic levers that shape the economy lie with local authorities. That is most profoundly the case in relation to planning, because it is through the planning system that land use is controlled. However, I would question whether the system is wired up correctly so that local authorities are incentivised to understand those impacts and to align them with economic growth.
It is an interesting issue. I agree with the fundamental point that we need to work more closely with local authorities to ensure that the growth agenda is delivered, because they are in control of many of the levers, including in planning, transport and education. Those are fundamental economic levers, and I agree that we need to have a lot more focus on how we deploy them.
We have probably gone off on those tangents enough, but I am looking forward to discussing them further in the future.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
That is an important point. Angus Macpherson was clear in his report that the Government needed to stop treating those things as wish lists and that they need to have a much more serious list of investable opportunities. I wonder whether that is not part of the same problem. It is good that you have that, but the real issue is ensuring that all of your processes that might stand in the way of those investments are aligned with objectives.
You just said that the resource level has had to be put in to achieve a 12-month decision-making timescale. I understood that to be the policy before that resource went in. Does that not indicate that there has not been an alignment of all Government processes towards its broader business and economic objectives?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 19 March 2025
Daniel Johnson
That is a moment to acknowledge that you had not got it right, is it not?