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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
Forgive me, but, having been in business—and businesses of different sizes—I know that that might have been the point at which you started to formally assess that plan, but I cannot believe that that was the first time that the business considered that scenario. What was the first point at which you, as a company executive, set out planned consolidation as an option for the business?
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
You did not discuss that possibility at any board or management meetings before February this year.
Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
I totally accept that it might not have been planned, that you wanted the plant to grow and that that is why you made the investment, but I just find it slightly hard to believe that February was the first point at which you did even a speculative examination. In a business—especially a business the size of yours—you scenario plan and look at the optimistic, expected and pessimistic scenarios, so I am just wondering at what point in the past few years was the first time that the option of plant consolidation appeared, even if it was a distant pessimistic scenario. You never—
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
So, it is the same workforce.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
Mr Thomson has made some good points that we can take up as a committee. I make the simple observation that we have just had the provisional outturn, in which the Scottish Government had a £500 million underspend. I make that observation in relation to where money could be found.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
It was really about the Subsidy Control Act 2022 and whether more conditionality should have been applied, on the basis of that act, to the moneys that came directly from the Scottish Government and to the grants from Scottish Enterprise.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
I am known for nothing else but plain speaking. You should not smile so broadly, minister.
The subtext to this is that there is a risk that, in essence, nothing will really change as a result of the bill—the Government will issue another set of guidance, there will be a round of consultations by local authorities and they will produce a report. There have been four suggestions—that is the number that comes to mind—for changes that could be made at stage 2, and I ask you to consider them.
First, in relation to what Lorna Slater and Gordon MacDonald said, could a consistent set of metrics be provided—not necessarily in the bill but in a subsection of the guidance—and could local authorities be required to set their own targets? You made the good point that one set of targets cannot apply to every area. However, if each local authority used a consistent set of metrics but was required to set its own targets, would that improve the bill and move things forward? What is your response to that idea?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
This will not work unless there is capacity and capability to heed the calls. It is about ensuring that people who know how to do that stuff have the confidence to do it. That is not going to happen unless there is support. Is there a possibility of considering broad duties to support capacity building or the Government looking at how it could use its agencies to help local communities to develop the skills, know-how and wherewithal to approach community wealth building? Unless people are starting businesses and creating community organisations and initiatives, community wealth building will just not happen. No amount of consultation or reports in the world will change that.
10:00Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
I guess the key question is: are you open to exploring some of those possibilities through stage 2?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Daniel Johnson
Fantastic—I will leave it there.