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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

The skills gap that Gordon MacDonald and I have identified during the preceding set of questions is our ability to lip-read.

I hand over to Gordon MacDonald.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

Given the centrality of productivity, it strikes me that, for the sake of a day, the report’s publication date could be looked at.

I recognise that the numbers cover a 20-year period, but you might have seen the article in the Financial Times in June that focused on London’s productivity over the past four years. I will fully declare that it is based on Office for National Statistics data and, unfortunately, its regional breakdowns take some time to come through, so it only covers 2019 to 2023. The article focused on the fact that London’s productivity decreased in that period, but it also very clearly showed that Scotland’s labour productivity growth was fourth from bottom, at 0.25 per cent, narrowly ahead of Wales, the West Midlands and London but behind the north-west, which led the pack with almost 2.5 per cent growth.

The point is that, yes, you can look at a longer period, but more recently, the regional comparisons appear to show some issues with Scotland’s productivity. First, do you recognise that? Secondly, to come back to the point about context, should we look more closely at Scotland’s productivity growth compared to that of other regions and nations of the UK?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

I do not disagree with that, but can I press you a little bit on that point? I must fully declare that I am slightly obsessed with the regional breakdowns, because they raise the question whether things are going on in other places that we could and should learn from.

There are some reasons not to talk about Manchester, given what has happened in recent days, but there are lessons to be drawn from what they are doing there. Should the Scottish Government use some of those comparisons—with Manchester, Northern Ireland or Wales—for both positive and negative insights?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

Are there any lessons to be learned from the British Business Bank? Given its very different model of funding funds—it does not make direct investment decisions but seeks to de-risk—are there any lessons that the Scottish National Investment Bank can learn from that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

You do not sound entirely sure.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

Okay, thanks very much. I bring in Kevin Stewart.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

Surely, if you can keep it brief.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

That is different. They are not within your control—I accept that. However, you must have a plan, surely.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

I understand that you do not necessarily have complete foresight in terms of what will happen with your portfolio, and that there are a number of other things that you need to have in place. I get all that. However, I am still not entirely clear on what the plan is. If all those things happen, when will the bank be self-sustaining? Do you have that plan? Do you have a target date?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Daniel Johnson

I think that the question has been answered.