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Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
I want to pick up on that and to re-emphasise the point that the chair made. In the coming financial year, the public sector financial settlements are likely to be extremely challenging. In that context, 8.4 per cent will be difficult to justify in comparison with other public sector bodies. A point has just been made about essentially living by the guidance that you provide to public sector bodies. Is making that statement not inviting at least that challenge?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
How many additional public bodies will you have to audit in the coming financial year compared with the current year?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
Thank you.
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
Yes, please.
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
Very few lines are going down. It is obviously to be expected that there will be increases in an inflationary environment. However, if I was looking at a budget proposal where I felt that an organisation was looking rigorously at every possible cost, I would hope to see a few more flat or decreasing lines, especially for non-people costs. For example, given that you were able to operate on almost half of your proposed budget in 2021-22, I wonder whether you have fully explored whether line items such as the stationery and printing budget could be reduced.
11:00Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
Looking at “Total other operating expenditure” in appendix 1, I see a figure of £5.3 million compared with £3.9 million in 2021-22. That is a 37 per cent increase in non-people costs. Is that correct?
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 11 December 2023
Daniel Johnson
In that context, it is incumbent on us to understand the robustness of the figures that you have come back with, and, in particular, how you have sought to find efficiency savings to contain your budget request within the challenging fiscal envelope in which we find ourselves. You set out your efficiency savings in appendix 3. Can you confirm that all those efficiency savings have been applied to the breakdown of your budget in appendix 1?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
I would like to follow on from that line of questioning. Matthew Elsby has stated that, essentially, the Treasury was considering the matter in the context of its own borrowing. That having been said, the Treasury does not state its borrowing parameters on the basis of an index of inflation. It mentions a percentage of GDP on a rolling five-year average and overall total borrowing against GDP. Indeed, that is how all economies, in broad terms, will consider their year-to-year quantum of borrowing and their overall debt. I am just wondering whether that was explored.
More broadly, if the principle of taxpayer fairness is fundamentally about ensuring that policies are cognisant of how they impact tax receipts, is there not a risk to both Governments should the Scottish economy underperform or overperform compared with the UK economy? If we underperform, we could be left with a more generous borrowing allowance than was intended. If the Scottish economy overperforms compared with the UK economy, even an annual overperformance of 0.5 per cent over five years could leave that quantum looking considerably smaller than it did at the point when it was agreed.
Did you explore looking at that from within the parameters of the Treasury’s fiscal rules? Can you comment on the risk to both Governments if you index against inflation rather than the economy?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
On a related point—this is a bit of a hobby-horse of mine from my previous tenure on the committee—I have always had a fear that the way that block grant adjustments are calculated becomes risky as time goes on. Fundamentally, you are indexing back to 2016. When you are in fiscal year 2017, that is fine, but the moment that you are into fiscal year 2021, let alone 2031, that becomes an increasingly synthetic exercise.
Was that explored as something that will need to be reviewed and revisited in future years? Especially when you hit the 10-year mark, unwinding all the different fiscal decisions made by the UK and Scottish Governments in order to benchmark and then calculate block grant adjustments becomes very prone to human error—or it certainly becomes a very synthetic exercise. Was that explored in the discussions, even if that might be something for future negotiation?
10:15Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2023
Daniel Johnson
What you have just set out explains why the sequence happened, from an intergovernmental perspective, but do you acknowledge that that has not necessarily accommodated the parliamentary process that one might want?