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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
If we can get it in writing—
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Yes—perhaps that is something for debate this afternoon.
I want to follow on from points that have been raised by Murdo Fraser and Lorna Slater. The most important thing, as you have been seeking to stress, is that it is important to compare apples with apples and to look at things over the longer term. It is interesting that the Scottish Government is presenting the budget in a different way this year, using outturn figures for 2023-24.
The total budget lines under your responsibility show a fall from £1.9 billion to £1.3 billion, but that is largely because of the UK-funded annually managed expenditure of £519 million that occurred in 2023-24. I ask this on the basis of clarification, so that we have this right. AME is not directly at the Scottish Government’s discretion; as I understand it, it is largely spending on behalf of the UK Government. Is there an explanation of what that change was—just so that we are clear about how to compare the figures?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
For the avoidance of doubt, the budget for employability in 2024-25, as passed, was £102.9 million and, according to the budget document that was published, you spent £92.3 million. Is that correct?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Perfect.
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
That is a really helpful insight. Just to—
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
I was just going to collapse into the next area about dealing with the specific powers—-
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Okay.
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Many of my questions have been touched on, so what I say might be a little repetitious. However, I will try to avoid that.
First of all, though, I would like to start almost from the beginning and understand your roles a bit more. You are both lawyers who sit in the Cabinet Office and work across Whitehall departments. Do you typically work directly with ministers and other civil servants? Can you describe the function of your office and how you interact with other parts of Government?
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
What I am really interested in is whether there is any possibility of sharing best practice. Obviously the jurisdictions are different, but drafting is drafting and, in a sense, lots of different people are seeking to do the same job of translating policy intent into good law. Is there any possibility of sharing best practice, both generally and more specifically with regard to delegated and Henry VIII powers? I keep saying “Henry VIII” but that is, as the previous panel pointed out, a pejorative term, so perhaps I should say “powers to amend primary legislation”. To what extent does the possibility of sharing best practice exist, and to what extent is there a possibility of exploring that in the future?
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
That certainly raises an interesting point for me, given that the Scottish Government and, I would imagine, the Welsh Government are former Government departments. Do you have interactions with lawyers from devolved Administrations or do you interact purely with Whitehall departments? I recognise that such interactions might be on a slightly different basis, but if you do have those contacts, in what circumstances do they arise?