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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

On that subject, you will be aware that the committee met last week with your colleague, the Cabinet Secretary for the Wellbeing Economy, and the Deputy First Minister. We looked at the money that has been raised so far from the ScotWind auction. I will not narrate all that we discussed, because I am sure that you have been briefed on that, but there were concerns that money that we were promised would be used for energy transition and green policies is now going into the general budget. We also know about the £56 million from the emergency budget review.

Given the challenges that you face, and the realistic picture that you have given us today, do you share those frustrations and concerns that the income is not being used for policies and projects that will directly benefit our climate and nature aspirations and targets? Have you been given any reassurance that that money will return to the intended budget lines?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

For the benefit of the committee, can you tell us what your understanding is of the current level of reserves and what projects are due to be funded from those reserves?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

SPT has written to the committee, and I have a note here. The reserves are fully allocated for projects. Maybe your official can say when the discussions started and what assessment was done of the potential impacts. It sounds as though the assumption may have been made that SPT could just draw down reserves. I do not know whether I am wrong in that assumption, but that is how it looks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Convener, I will hand back to you, but it is worth noting that sympathy will not get us to net zero.

Earlier, I asked about confidence levels in meeting the interim targets and the 2045 targets. I will read out just one sentence from Valerie Davidson, the chief executive of SPT, who said:

“Cuts to this funding will have a hugely negative impact on our efforts to ensure transport in our area is greener, more connected, more reliable, and more accessible”.

That does not give me confidence, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

There have been concerns about a lack of enforcement action, which might relate to resources and capacity. Do you recognise that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I think that we all welcome the fact that there has been a summit and engagement, and the recognition that there are challenges. However, although some progress might have been made, the amount of new woodland that has been created has fallen in each of the past five years. We cannot look at just one single year—that has been the direction of travel.

I can understand why stakeholders who have expertise and who operate on the front line are writing to the committee. They knew that you were coming here today, cabinet secretary, and they say that they are really worried. They are asking what action the Government will take to focus on woodland types that provide the greatest emissions benefits if the resource allocation is not increased. People are realistic about the 41 per cent cut not being massively reduced, but what other actions and mitigations are you going to take?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Has the minimum and maximum range of that been identified?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Many people are still struggling to see whether that is accurate and that the money has been dispersed across the budget. Can you not answer the question about whether you expect any of the money to be reinstated to its original purpose?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I have some questions about Strathclyde Partnership for Transport, the regional transport authority. Why has SPT’s capital grant from the Scottish Government been cut to zero?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

We might have time to come on to some of the impacts. However, putting aside the merits of the decision, why was no advance notice given to SPT or why was no request made for information on the possible impacts? You have said that discussions between your officials and SPT are happening now. I have a letter from the chief executive of SPT, Valerie Davidson, and I have heard from Councillor Joe Fagan, who is the leader of South Lanarkshire Council, which is in my area, and they seem to be pretty annoyed. There was no up-front discussion. We have heard about the Verity house agreement, how the Government wants to work collegiately with colleagues in local government, and the need to work strategically and co-ordinate. Why did that come out of the blue for SPT?