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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. Dr Provan will now give his opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you—that is really helpful. Again, I am sure that that will be picked up by other members of the committee. I now invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
I have two final questions to put to you, director general. The first may have been answered, not so much in the cabinet secretary’s statement, but in the associated paperwork that accompanied his statement, which I think Mr Chapman alluded to, in part, earlier on. I look back to the evidence that we took from the Auditor General on 14 May, which is reflected in paragraph 42 of the report. He said to us that
“the Scottish Government still needs to clarify its plans for general practice and to set out the actions, timescales and cost to deliver that.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 14 May 2025; c 4.]
What he is asking for there is very clear. Do you plan to publish that information?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
In the fullness of time, you might perhaps be able to pause and reflect on the evidence session that we had with the BMA and the Royal College of General Practitioners before you came in, because they gave a rather different picture of the action that was needed.
I will ask you one final question, director general, which again relates to yesterday’s announcement. One of the things that was announced was the merger of National Services Scotland and NHS Education for Scotland. Mergers and reorganisations often deflect organisations from their core purpose. In the evidence session that we had before you came in and in this one that you have been involved in, it has emerged that both those institutions—both those parts of the delivery of services—are critical to meeting the aspirations and the ambitions of the 2018 contract. Do you not think that merging those organisations might deflect them from the things that we want them to get on with, including data collection and ensuring that GPs are properly and fully employed?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. You have covered many of the topics that we will pick up this morning, including IT, premises, funding and the delivery of support and services.
I will begin with something that is a bit more political and practical, perhaps, by going back to the First Minister’s programme for government statement. He spoke about the delivery of an extra 100,000 appointments in GP surgeries. What was your reaction to that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you Stephanie; that is much appreciated. I turn to Colin Beattie, who has some questions to put to the witnesses.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
I now invite Stephanie Callaghan to continue with the theme of the patient experience and other aspects of the Audit Scotland report.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Stephanie, we are quite short of time. If you agree, we will move on and I will invite Graham Simpson to put questions to the panel.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
In the Parliament, the debates on health typically focus on inputs versus outcomes, with a lot of emphasis on how many people are being employed to carry out work or how many more appointments there will be, and whether the outcomes are changing as a result of that. It seems to me that this issue is about the inputs, because unless you get the inputs right, you will not get the outcomes that you want.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I will ask Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.