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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
On that rather stark warning note, we are going to have to draw this session to a close. We had some other questions that we wanted to put to you, but we have run out of time. I would propose that, if you agree, we put those questions in writing and make sure that you get an opportunity to give us answers. We did not get on to premises and other areas that we think are important to you and are part of the 2018 contract.
With that, I thank Dr Chris Williams, who joined us online, for your input. I thank Dr Chris Provan for being in the committee room and giving us the benefit of your expertise. Dr Iain Morrison, I thank you also for your time and for the evidence that you have given us this morning. It has been a very useful session, and I thank you all for your participation.
I suspend the meeting, because we need to change over witnesses.
11:04 Meeting suspended.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
You said at the start of your statement that the Scottish Government engaged in the production of the report and, at the end, that it was an opportune time to pause and reflect on the report. Do you accept the findings and recommendations of the report?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
We all accept that, yesterday afternoon, a service renewal framework was set out by the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care. However, we are talking about a contract that really has its roots back in 2016. I return to my question. Do you accept the report’s findings, which include criticisms of the Government’s tardiness and the extent to which the Government has been transparent?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay, but I am not going to allow you to get away with blaming the pandemic, because the consultation on this contract began in November 2016, the document was produced in November 2017 and phase 1 of its implementation began in April 2018, which is almost two years before the pandemic. You really cannot blame the pandemic for a failure to implement most of the objectives that are set out in the contract.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 20th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. We have apologies from Jamie Greene and Stuart McMillan, but I am pleased to welcome Stephanie Callaghan, who is substituting for Stuart McMillan. She is attending the committee remotely.
Agenda item 1 is for the committee to consider whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. Dr Provan will now give his opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you—that is really helpful. Again, I am sure that that will be picked up by other members of the committee. I now invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
The route map will be published within a year. What about action? What about the implementation of the terms of the 2018 contract?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
We can hear you, but we cannot see you, Stephanie.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 18 June 2025
Richard Leonard
There you are. Please proceed.