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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Parliament passed the Flood Risk Management (Scotland) Act in 2009. However, in paragraph 23 of the report, you make the point that

“The Scottish Government did not introduce a way to monitor progress in addressing flooding in communities.”

The outstanding question, then, is whether the Scottish Government has introduced ways of monitoring progress in addressing flooding in communities, in the context of the flood resilience strategy. Have lessons been learned? Do you get a sense that more oversight is in place or that there is a monitoring system to ensure that the right decisions are being made and the right priorities followed?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Those are routine maintenance shutdowns. They are not to address substantive structural engineering issues.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

We are not the health and safety committee; we are the Public Audit Committee, so we will focus our attention on that. I just wanted to get that picture. If the area is being presented as a tourist destination and people expect the funicular to be there as part of the attraction of going there, but it is closed when they arrive, that has quite a damaging impact on the reputation of the area, does it not?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Let me turn to issues of governance and oversight. How does HIE ensure that it has effective oversight of the Cairngorm Mountain project and those who are running it? How does that work?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

On first viewing, there seems to be quite a proliferation of governance and lots of different committees and programme boards and so on. Is that the most effective way of providing the oversight that is required? It would be useful for the Public Audit Committee to have a diagram that shows how those different parts of the governance fit together and what their different roles are.

The other question that arises is the extent to which that structure is a product of lessons learned from the previous private contractor that provided the services, which was Natural Assets Investments Ltd.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

I now invite Keith Brown to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Our next agenda item is a mini-inquiry into the Cairngorm funicular railway. I am very pleased to welcome our witnesses to the committee. From Highlands and Islands Enterprise, we are joined by Stuart Black, the chief executive; Sandra Dunbar, director of corporate services; and Elaine Hanton, the Cairngorm programme lead. We are also joined by representatives from Cairngorm Mountain (Scotland) Ltd, which is a subsidiary of Highlands and Islands Enterprise. I am pleased to welcome Mike Gifford, the chief executive; and Tim Hurst, a board member and the former interim chief executive.

We have some questions to put to you, but before we get to those, I invite Mr Black to make a short opening statement.

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

I now invite Keith Brown to put some questions to the witnesses.

Public Audit Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 24th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick. I welcome Keith Brown, who joins us as Joe FitzPatrick’s substitute. Keith, do you wish to declare any relevant interests?

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Richard Leonard

You said—and I think that it is recorded in the Auditor General’s report—that the bank is well governed. However, when the Auditor General gave evidence to the committee on 28 May, he also said that overgovernance is

“a real risk to be managed.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 May 2025; c19.]

I have listened to the description of the various bits of apparatus, some of which are described in exhibit 3 of the Auditor General’s report. There is a business investment group; a Scottish Government ministerial advisory group; the board of the National Investment Bank itself; and there is this figure who acts as a provider of independent oversight and who, as you have described it, liaises. There is a danger, is there not, that, at a strategic level, and even possibly at an operational level, there are lots of cooks who might spoil the broth?