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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I will now turn to Keith Brown, who has a final round of questions to put to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Welcome back to this morning’s meeting. Still under agenda item 2, I am pleased to welcome three witnesses from the Scottish Government. We are joined in the committee room by Caroline Lamb, who is the director general for health and social care and the chief executive of NHS Scotland. Joining us remotely is Fiona Bennett, who is the director of public health finance in the Scottish Government. We are also joined in the room by Christine McLaughlin, who is the chief operating officer and deputy chief executive of NHS Scotland. Before we go on, Fiona, can I check that I got your job title correct?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. I will begin with a fairly stock question, which I am quite sure that you are expecting. Do you accept the findings and the recommendations that are contained in the report?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
How many people are on the executive group?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Again, just to understand, are you saying that it is an NHS Scotland executive group or that it is an NHS Scotland group of executives?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay, but are you involved in the shortlisting process?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Do you have a right of veto?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Before we move on, I want to pick up on another issue that Graham Simpson raised, which is the connection with local communities. I understand that, for a considerable period of time, the only member of the NHS Western Isles board who lived on the Western Isles was the chair. In fact, some of the non-executive members of that board had not even visited the Western Isles. There was a public outcry about that. How do you ensure that that kind of situation does not arise?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
A situation like the one I have just described does not seem to me to be in any way acceptable at all.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Richard Leonard
How would you respond to the accusation that the same old people on the quango gravy train keep popping up all the time?