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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Yes, I think that that is so. You have mentioned on a number of occasions in this morning’s session the £1 billion announced over the summer, which is presumably a commitment by the Scottish Government to, at least for this parliamentary session, keep investing in mechanisms for closing the attainment gap. Is that additional money over and above the core funding for education delivered by local government?

Secondly—this has been a thread running through our conversations—this is not just about where things go wrong but where things go right. What sense do you get of a sharing of good practice—of things that work using this funding? There are clearly certain stipulations about what it can and cannot be spent on, which led to some very innovative ideas, especially in the early days of its introduction. Do you get a sense that there is collaboration and sharing of good practice and that if there is an additional £1 billion in the system it will be well spent, provide value for money and have the desired effect?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. I will bring Sharon Dowey back in, then, I think, Willie Coffey has a question on the area that Sharon Dowey will pursue.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Does Willie Coffey want to come in?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed.

On behalf of the committee, I thank Stephen Boyle and his team this morning—Antony Clark, Tricia Meldrum and Zoe McGuire—for keeping us informed and answering the questions that we put. We really appreciate your time and the work that you are doing.

I draw the public part of this morning’s committee to an end.

10:31 Meeting continued in private until 11:20.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. That has been a very useful line of questioning. I will now turn to Colin Beattie, who has a number of questions around outcomes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report

Meeting date: 9 September 2021

Richard Leonard

Craig Hoy has a series of questions. I think that he wants to make a declaration of interests before he puts his questions.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Richard Leonard

We have identified the need for follow-up instead of just having a one-day inquiry into an organisation’s performance before everyone moves on, and we are keen to work with you to ensure that we are regularly updated on progress that is being made.

We move to questions from Craig Hoy.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Richard Leonard

We are coming towards the end of the meeting. You talked about agility.

You have explained in your written report about the move towards blogs and briefings. In the past two decades, Audit Scotland has built up a powerful reputation for being authoritative and forensic, and for making evidence-led recommendations. How will you safeguard that reputation in a world of blogs and briefings? How do you see the mechanism for referring work to the committee working? Can you assure us that there will be ample opportunity for us to work with you and to scrutinise the issues that you uncover using those routes?

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Richard Leonard

I turn to the main item of business, which is a chance for us to consider Audit Scotland’s strategic priorities and future work programme. I welcome our witnesses. We have with us Stephen Boyle, who is the Auditor General for Scotland, and via videolink, Mark Roberts, who is audit director at Audit Scotland.

Before I move to questions from the committee, I thank Stephen Boyle for providing a written report and ask him to give us a short presentation to outline the strategic priorities of Audit Scotland and its future work programme.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Richard Leonard

I think that some of us are maybe more concerned about whether people can access their general practitioner and what their sense of that service is, has been and might be in the future. I think Craig Hoy wants to come in with a brief question that is related to this area.