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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We will explore the dynamics of the interaction between the Scottish Government, the sponsor division, the executive—including the accountable officer and the senior team—and the board. Auditor General, perhaps you can clarify my understanding: the board is a hybrid, with three members of the commission appointed by the Scottish Government and six being elected. Is that correct? I presume, therefore, that there are different lines of accountability even within the commission itself.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you, Mr Kenny. Craig Hoy has some questions to develop that line of inquiry.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Richard Leonard

I will summarise what has been said so far. The report was published by Audit Scotland on 13 October. We are meeting on 4 November—22 days later—and the message that is coming from Mr Kenny is that all those issues have been addressed and rectified. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

I want to bring us back to the nitty-gritty of the Audit Scotland briefing, on which Sharon Dowey has a series of questions.

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

So, you dispute the conclusion that there is

“a fairly static level of progress”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 30 September 2021; c 37.]

or no progress at all. In your eyes, we are making progress in shifting the balance from custodial to non-custodial sentencing. Is that right?

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

You understand, Mr Griffin, that the committee has a healthy appetite for data.

Public Audit Committee

“Covid-19 vaccination programme”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. The briefing is wide ranging, and we have a wide range of questions to ask.

I will get us under way with a couple of questions. The briefing is broadly positive, as you said, but there are challenges that lie not behind us but ahead of us. We know that there will be increasing pressures on the national health service, which we normally see during the winter, and that there is a considerable backlog of treatment. There is also the continuing pressure of delivering the vaccination programme. Are there adequate structures, leadership and governance in place to withstand those pressures and to meet those challenges?

Public Audit Committee

“Covid-19 vaccination programme”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Of course, we will come back—it might even be next week—to the PPE report that you produced, which is on part of this terrain as well.

As I said, we have a wide range of questions. I begin by asking Sharon Dowey to come in on an important area for us.

Public Audit Committee

“Covid-19 vaccination programme”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

I am reminded just how important these questions are by the evidence in your briefing paper. Exhibit 2 shows us in very clear terms the difference in outcomes for those who are unvaccinated and those who have received the double dose. For the record, the number of unvaccinated cases recorded is almost two and a half times the number of fully vaccinated cases, and the number of hospitalisations is three times more for the unvaccinated than it is for the fully vaccinated. Sadly, the mortality rate for people who have not been vaccinated is five times higher than the rate among those who have been fully vaccinated. Matters of inequality, ethnicity and deprivation feed into those outcomes. Do you want to comment on that?

Public Audit Committee

“Community justice: Sustainable alternatives to custody”

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Richard Leonard

It is about outcomes, performance and improvement.