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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Colin Beattie, do you have any further questions?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
I am rather surprised at the analysis that, if you have a timeframe of 12 months for a review, it means that everyone is sidetracked into doing only that for 12 months. The whole basis of the Promise is meeting a promise by 2030. That is based on a date target, is it not?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you, director general. For the record, could I ask whether the Scottish Government accepts the findings and recommendations of the Audit Scotland and Accounts Commission report?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
I ask because I noticed that you issued a press release in which you said that you take the report “seriously”, and that
“As an organisation we will make sure to review all the recommendations.”
What does that mean?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay, but, again, to be clear about it, the recommendations that are contained in the report set some very clear actions to be taken over the next six months, the next 12 months and so on. Do you intend to implement those recommendations?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
You will know better than most, Mr McKinlay, that there is a process involved in the production of one of these reports. I think that Ms Duncan refers to it in her letter of 4 September, which she has kindly shared with us and in which she talks about a “clearance draft”. She has given commentary on a clearance draft, pre-publication, as part of the process in which the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission very nobly invite the organisations that they are reporting on to give them any comment, presumably to fact-check and so on.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
You will understand that we are here this morning primarily to discuss the report produced by the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission, but if you wish to refer to other reports, we will, of course, listen.
Mr McKinlay, from the point of view of The Promise Scotland, do you accept the findings and recommendations of the report?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay—thank you.
I said earlier that one of our committee members—Joe FitzPatrick—will be putting his questions to you via videolink, and I now invite him to ask his questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you. That draws this part of this morning’s agenda to a close. Mr Anderson, we do not normally have as many as seven witnesses, so if we did not get round to things that you wanted to raise—and this applies to you all—or if there are things that on reflection or contemporaneously you determine it would be useful for the committee to see, we are very happy to receive written submissions from you. Once again, thank you very much for your evidence this morning. I will now suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.
11:14 Meeting suspended.Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 December 2025
Richard Leonard
Sorry—are you saying that those are not general criticisms that you are making of the implementation of the Promise?