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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
Mr Carson, you have been here long enough to know that no bill stays in the form in which it is introduced until stage 3. Amendments are lodged—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
It is very unusual for a code of practice to be in a bill. I can think of only one bill where that was the case in my seven or eight years here, and that was not in this portfolio. The code of practice was a recommendation of the Werritty review, but, as you will have heard from NatureScot, the code will be developed by it in consultation with stakeholders. I was pleased to hear how vociferously that was put forward. It is only right that the code of practice is a collaborative effort and that there is agreement on it. I think that everyone the committee has spoken to in that space will be involved in the process and invited to collaborate.
As far as the committee’s deliberations are concerned, I do not need to tell you how to operate, but requiring more information on the code of practice is very much putting the cart before the horse. NatureScot will deliver on that code of practice. The bill is to put in place the law that will facilitate the licensing scheme.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
I did not say that, Ms Hamilton. It does not define the clarity of the law.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
The code of practice has not been written yet.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
I do not have a draft of the code of practice because it is not me who is drafting it.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
Ms Hamilton, you can ask me the question as many times as you want, but the code of practice will be written by NatureScot, in collaboration with stakeholders, after the bill has been passed.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
Yes—you make a good point.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
The Government did engage with representatives of the estates and business owners. I—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
I was quite surprised by it, and afterwards I went and looked at the BRIA. In fact, the BRIA states:
“A wide range of businesses that have previously notified an interest in wildlife management and rodent control were sent the public consultation directly and were encouraged to respond.
These proposals have been informed by two independent reviews that gathered evidence and liaised with stakeholders”.
That, to me, would be business engagement.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Gillian Martin
I do not know whether Norman Munro wants to comment.