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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I know that people want to come in and add to that. I must go to questions from other members and move things along. I call Gillian Mackay.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We will move on to an issue that we have skirted around throughout the morning, which is the sequencing of the legislation and the co-design process and how you want to see that work. I will go to James Dornan to start off questions on that theme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Do you think that moving away from the time-and-task model has meant that fewer people are getting into crisis? It would be helpful if you could mention how your approach contributes to some of the lowest delayed-discharge figures in the country.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I hand over to Evelyn Tweed.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I want to respond to something that Margaret McCarthy has said a couple of times. Margaret, you said that, during the pandemic, staff had autonomy to make decisions based on client need without the system dictating what they should do and that they felt valued because they had that autonomy but that, since the pandemic, people feel less valued. Do you think that those two things go hand in hand? Has the system come back in and taken away the autonomy? How do you see the national care service being able to provide a framework so that the autonomy comes back and there are better outcomes for staff and the people they care for?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I will move on to the final theme of measuring success and hand over to Paul O’Kane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

It is always difficult when people are online. I apologise, and I will bring in Margaret McCarthy now.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I thank all of you for your time this morning. The session has been very helpful. I am particularly glad that you have given suggestions on what you want to see in the bill and the process. That will be extremely helpful for us as we put together our report.

We will pause for 10 minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:32 Meeting suspended.  

10:45 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Presumably, that would be done to inform the secondary legislation that will fill in some of the detail on how the service will work.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Does Tess White have a follow-up question?