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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Gillian Martin

That seems to be all our questions. I thank the cabinet secretary and Richard McCallum for their time. We will see the cabinet secretary again next week, when we will be looking at the evidence of three public petitions that have been passed to us to consider. The cabinet secretary will also provide evidence on an affirmative instrument.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. Thank you.

12:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:33.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Before I move on to Paul O’Kane, I want to raise an issue. Given that the minister has mentioned outcomes, now seems a good time at which to make this point.

We have heard, particularly from people who work in social care, that the time-and-task model does not focus on outcomes. How will we have systems in place that prioritise outcomes for people, rather than systems dictating the amount of time that a home carer comes in and spends with someone, when they might need more than 15 minutes? You know the scenarios—they have been mentioned to us. This is about people’s outcomes, rather than having a system dictating what care people get.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

That would be helpful. We understand that you cannot outline the whole list just now, but it would be good for us to have that information.

Sandesh, do you have a follow-up question before we move on to questions from Tess White?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

We will have a question from Carol Mochan, before we start to talk about co-design in more detail.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

Stephanie Callaghan will have the last question before we take a break.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

You can ask another short question, Emma, then we will go to Tess White.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I will hand over to my colleagues. Emma Harper has a question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

I will pick up your answer to Evelyn Tweed on Anne’s law. Last week, we had in front of us a number of people who told us that they still lacked access to their loved ones. That could be for understandable reasons, such as measures being put in place that relate to Covid or infection control. However, those people feel that the measures go too far, because they do not allow them access to their loved ones. What can be done now to ensure that that does not happen?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

People who find themselves in that situation should go to the Care Inspectorate.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Gillian Martin

You will be pleased to hear that these are the final questions from Emma Harper. I do not mean that in a pejorative way, although that might be how it sounded coming out of my mouth. I just mean that Emma will ask the final questions of the session.