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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
There are about 43 in Scotland.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
Obviously, everything around the decarbonisation of energy is devolved to Scotland and our economic department is looking particularly at high-energy sectors such as manufacturing.
I am not sure that this particular instrument is about incentivising anything. I think it is about protecting jobs. We have large manufacturing, such as food production and feed-stock production. The original point behind the renewables obligation was to get a subsidy for renewables, but this particular exemption is about large manufacturers that are particularly affected by inflation and high fuel costs. There are thousands of jobs associated with those manufacturers and this is about protecting them in the face of a number of pressures. [Gillian Martin has corrected this contribution. See end of report.]
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
The solutions to that lie in other schemes and all the work that we are doing with various sectors. There are obviously incentives for decarbonisation in the business support and procurement landscape in Scotland. We are working on a green industrial strategy and there will also be incentives in that. There is incentivisation across the piece of what the Scottish Government puts forward, particularly with our enterprise agencies.
This particular instrument, to my mind and my interpretation, is about keeping the manufacturing and energy intensive industries going and taking away one of the pressures on them, particularly given the global landscape of fluctuating energy prices that at the moment are outwith our control. As we look to the future and have more renewable electricity, in particular, in Scotland, those pressures will decrease.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
No, I will not take that chance. I think that I have said everything that I need to say. Thank you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
The 100 per cent exemption will reduce eligible energy intensive industries’ electricity costs by between £5 per megawatt hour and £7 per megawatt hour. That will amount to quite a substantial sum if you think about the huge amount of fuel that is used by those particular industries. [Gillian Martin has corrected this contribution. See end of report.]
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
We are following UK legislation. If we did not follow it, what might be the effect of that on Scottish energy intensive industries? I imagine—and Mr Lumsden would be the first to be critical of this—that they might look at a situation where there is a 100 per cent exemption in the rest of the UK but only an 85 per cent exemption in Scotland, and they might decide to relocate their operations. I imagine that Mr Lumsden would join me in being concerned about that. That is why we are agreeing to the UK legislation.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
I never think that it is particularly fair when householders have to shoulder any kind of burden. I suggest that the review of the energy markets is far more critical in that regard. I look forward to Douglas Lumsden joining with me in asking for protections for consumers, particularly things such as a social tariff, which would mean that vulnerable consumers would be protected from any price increases. In my view, that would be far more effective and far fairer than 80p or £1.10 being added to a bill to save highly skilled manufacturing jobs in Scotland.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
Gillian Martin has identified errors in her contribution and provided the following corrections.
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There is concern that, if we do not make the exemption for energy intensive industries, particularly in the high fuel price situation that we have at the moment
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There is concern that, if we do not make the exemption for energy intensive industries, particularly in the high electricity price situation that we have at the moment
At col 4, paragraph 1—
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That will amount to quite a substantial sum if you think about the huge amount of fuel that is used by those particular industries.
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That will amount to quite a substantial sum if you think about the huge amount of electricity that is used by those particular industries.
At col 5, paragraph 1—
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but this particular exemption is about large manufacturers that are particularly affected by inflation and high fuel costs
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but this particular exemption is about large manufacturers that are particularly affected by inflation and high electricity costs
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
I have some figures here.
I will mention domestic fuel bills, because obviously the exemption is recouped. The measure will have very little impact on domestic fuel bills.
I will have a look for the figures.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Gillian Martin
I will need to check my notes on that, Ms Boyack. I do not think that I have that information to hand. Obviously, you are making a decision today. If we can find that information we will provide it to the committee.