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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

John Mason

Yes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

John Mason

So, in some ways, that was a one-off because of Covid and turbulence.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

John Mason

Thank you all for taking part and for your clear answers.

We will have a break and start again at 11 o’clock.

10:53 Meeting suspended.  

11:00 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

John Mason

Welcome back to the second half of our meeting this morning. We now continue our evidence taking on the Scottish Government’s public service reform programme. Today, we will hear from Claire Burden, the chief executive of NHS Ayrshire and Arran, whom I welcome to the committee. We were meant to also be hearing from a representative of the Argyll and Bute integration joint board, but they are unable to attend today. I apologise that you are in the spotlight, Claire, but I am sure that we will get on okay.

We have about an hour, but we do not have to use all that time—we will see how we get on.

We are looking at public service reform. Initially, we thought that the Government was going to have a very clear path for that; more recently, it has been more the case that each organisation will be looking at reform itself. Do you think that that works, or do we need a stronger steer from the Government about the kind of reform that it is looking for and where we should be going? Are you comfortable that your organisation and similar organisations can drive forward reform yourselves?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

John Mason

You have mentioned a couple of times the number of people you have. The Argyll and Bute IJB is not here, but its population is 85,000, so it is an even smaller organisation.

Last week, we heard from the police, and they are obviously an example of a major reform in recent years. They went from eight police authorities, or whatever it was, down to just one. Making anything like that kind of change in the health service could not be done internally, could it? It would have to be driven by central Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

John Mason

Sticking with the IT theme, I will bring in Elaine Lorimer.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

John Mason

Does that suggest that there are too many public agencies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

John Mason

Okay—I did not want to take us off on too much of a tangent; I was simply struck by the point about the IT and the number of bodies.

Everyone wants to come in now—that is what happens halfway through the session. I will take Stuart MacQuarrie, Garry McEwan and Karen Watt first, on the IT question, and then I will come to Ross Greer, who has been waiting patiently in the background.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

John Mason

Do all the colleges and universities have completely different systems?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

John Mason

More people want to come in now.