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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

One point that has come up many times—in fact, you have mentioned it yourself—is the concept of bringing in new policies and looking at what is already happening. Given that it looks like we will be fairly tight for money over the next few years, would you go so far as to say that the Scottish Government and local government should not make any new commitments or policies and should focus instead on what they are doing at the moment and try to do it as well as they can? Should we pull back on new initiatives?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

Eileen Rowand, all political parties make promises at elections—both at council level and at a national level—and we all want to do new things. Do you think we should cut back on the new things?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

A lot of ground has been covered already but, as you might have seen, one of the questions that I asked the previous panel of witnesses was whether the framework was too high level and whether it should have contained more detail. Perhaps I can ask the same question of this panel, starting with Mr Melhuish.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

I will ask the others for their responses to that question later, but another witness whom I previously quoted suggested that one way of giving more certainty over five years is to hold back money at the beginning, which means having less spending but allows a reserve to be built up in order to give a bit more certainty further down the line. Would you support such an approach?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

In response to Mr Johnson, you said that the UK Government has been floating some kind of tax on online retailers. Do you support such a move as something that would take pressure off our having to tax the shops in the street?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

Mr Bradley, would you like to respond to the general question whether the framework is too high level?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

I accept a lot of that—I totally accept that universities are doing good. I am very proud of the fact that we have some of the best universities in the world. I just think that, when the Scottish Government will be so tight for money over the next five years, we maybe need to see a little bit more financial contribution from universities.

I do not think that colleges, the NHS or local government holds reserves at such levels. I do not want to spend all my time on the University of Glasgow, but the creditors figure is £252 million in its previous accounts. That fine figure is presumably being used for investment. However, the cash and cash equivalents figure is £488 million and the investments figure is £247 million, so there appears to be a lot of extra money sitting there.

Would you not accept that, if the Scottish Government is tight for money, we need to concentrate on the colleges, the NHS and local government, and the universities really must tighten things up a little bit?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

Mirren Kelly, do you agree?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

John Mason

That leads quite well on to my next question. I will start with Ms Rowand this time.

One of the submissions that we have received says that, in taking the five-year approach, the Scottish Government would not have to spend all its money now but could save some and put it into reserves to give more certainty towards the end of the five-year period. Following on from what you have just said, I have a feeling that, although that would give more certainty, local government and others would not be happy if we held a lot of money back.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

John Mason

That is a fair answer—it is actually quite a good one. I will leave it at that.