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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

I have a wee supplementary on that, convener. The young folk from Dumfries and Galloway whom we talked to last week definitely had a difficulty with school. You talked about further and higher education, and one of the things that all those young folk that Mr Smyth and I talked to last week said was that they felt that, as far as the college was concerned, they were a bit of a tick-box exercise and they were not listened to. How do you work with FE and HE partners to make sure that young folk are listened to and that they are able to fulfil their hopes and aspirations? The folk whom we spoke to last week were very articulate and they had a strength of feeling that they put across very well about not being listened to in higher education.

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

You obviously have a job to do in helping folk move on, hopefully into work. How often do you and other partners actually ask for those folk’s opinions about how they have been served and how they have been treated on that journey?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

Grand—I agree with that. That seems to happen in the Aberdeen scenario anyway. There was a great video of folks who had been through Project Search who gave their opinions about it, and it was fantastic to hear their experiences.

I want to move on to diversity, because we are living in a world with a huge amount of diverse jobs and we need a diverse workforce. We need employers to have not only a level of understanding of people, but flexibility. How can we ensure that employers become more flexible when it comes to employing neurodivergent people? What do you think could push them further?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

I will leave it at that. I hope that we will get that paper from Mr McCallum.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

I am a carer positive employer. Would it be wise to establish a scheme—not a tick-box scheme, because I canna abide them—to award employers who have a positive approach to employing diverse people?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Kevin Stewart

I have a final brief question. All of this is about people and getting the best possible outcomes for them. We have heard about some of the work that has been undertaken to share best practice and the attempts to get rid of some of the risk aversion that still exists. Minister, would it be possible for you and your officials to provide some detail on what has gone on in that area over, say, the past year and give us a flavour of how you are going about that business?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Kevin Stewart

I intend to ask some questions about commissioning, but the exchange just now has been interesting. This is the first that the committee has heard of a dynamic purchasing system, for example, which you say is different from a normal framework. If it is the first time that we have heard of it, how do folk out there who are trying to sell things keep up with all the tweaks and differences as they appear?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Kevin Stewart

You kind of make my point for me. I will not go into the national care service in depth, as the convener will, I am sure, not allow me the time to do that, but the national care service is about uniformity, having the best standards possible for the best outcomes for people and creating a high-quality standard across the board. We are not there yet.

As I said, Mr Cook makes my point for me. People on the front line in Aberdeen came up with something different, and they have been allowed to go with it, whereas there has been risk aversion in other parts of the country, where folks on the front line have wanted a similar approach to that taken in Aberdeen, with flexibility, independence and autonomy, but they have been told no. The folks putting together the tenders and documents have said, “That’s not possible.”

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Kevin Stewart

That would certainly be useful for me, and I think that it would be useful for other members, too. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Kevin Stewart

Let us move on to commissioning. We have heard from many people that good commissioning work can lead to very good outcomes, which is what we all want. However, we have been told that competitive public tenders are not necessarily the most appropriate vehicles for that commissioning work. We have also heard that there is a perception, when it comes to commissioning, that accountants and lawyers have more influence over the tender than the people on the front line who know what is required. Do you have any comment on that, minister?