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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

As I did earlier, I will play devil’s advocate. A number of issues have been raised in the discussion, but I will start with the proposal to have a commissioner, as it has just been raised.

There has been talk that we should all be thinking about future generations. I do not disagree with the need to do that—I think about them every single day. There has also been a lot of talk about the number of commissioners that we have and the proposals to have even more. Many folk out there among the public—and the public are the most important people—think that commissioners are a complete and utter waste of time, in most regards, and that, with regard to the issue of accountability, which Dr Long and Mr Ryder-Jones mentioned, it is politicians who should be accountable. Is creating a commissioner taking away the accountability that every one of the politicians around this table should have?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

Again, I am playing devil’s advocate here. We could set up a future generations commissioner who is a horizon gazer, if you like, and comes up with all that might need to be done—the long-term thinking—but we could still be stuck in a rut because we have a UK Treasury that gives only one-year funding and no long-term funding like that which exists in other places, including Singapore. How will all of that work when that commissioner can do nothing about UK Government policy and UK Government spending? What is the point?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

Does anybody else want to come in?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Office for the Internal Market (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

You came in this morning, Mr MacLennan, and said that you wanted to give us the “pitch”. I am quite a cynical person, as you have probably gathered. How would you pitch to not only me but the general public out there to explain why we should not think that you are just another bit of bureaucracy that is not really required?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

Or by enforcement of existing legislation.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Office for the Internal Market (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

You have said that you are not an arbiter and that you cannot get involved in dispute resolution. In your report, you said:

“We have not attempted to draw firm conclusions about the future direction of travel for the UK internal market.”

I will play devil’s advocate: what is the point of the Office for the Internal Market?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Office for the Internal Market (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

Why would I ask you for advice? By the sounds of it—again, I am playing devil’s advocate—I cannot see a huge amount in the report. It mentions the peat industry. How many other industries have engaged with you on a regular basis? Has any survey work been done to find out how many businesses know of your existence?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

I want to see massive institutional change, but we better not go there.

I will return to another important point that you made earlier, Dr Long. I am paraphrasing, but you said that there is already a range of duties for bodies to act sustainably. One good example of an area in which we have done well, but not quite as well as we could, is fair trade. The Economy and Fair Work Committee has been looking at procurement, but there is no particularly great definition of fair trade.

How do we move forward with meaningful measures? Would it be a good idea to look at the range of duties, tidy up definitions and get them right where they are not quite right, to ensure that folk are living up to their responsibilities?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Office for the Internal Market (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

If I were pitching, I would find an example other than peat—not that I do not think that peat is important but, if you will excuse the pun, it hardly sets the heather alight.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

Kevin Stewart

I could go on for much longer, convener, but I will not.