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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Willie Rennie

Welcome to your position, minister. It is good to see you on that side of the fence.

I feel sorry for you, because you have taken on a portfolio that is mired in confusion and delay, and it has been for some years. A characteristic of your contribution, which has been impressive so far, is that you have talked about taking quick actions. That will be a dramatic change from recent years. There is no international strategy for the higher education sector. There is no final purpose and principles statement—it was promised in the spring and is still not here. There is no skills alignment—it was promised six years ago and we still do not have it. Although you talked about flexibilities for the college sector, we do not have substantial change on that, other than what you mentioned.

My concern is that, on top of that, you have a £46 million cut. How will that help all of that? How will it help the college and university sectors to plan for the longer term, which you have acknowledged that you would like to happen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Willie Rennie

You will have heard me talk about this before, but, with regard to research performance, our UK Research Council funding has dropped from 15 to 12.5 per cent. We were brilliant at this before—brilliant—and we are still good, but we are going down. Surely that indicates managed decline. If that position is then reinforced with a massive cut to the budget and a flat-cash situation, it is not really an indication that you are fully committed to universities—which are a major generator of economic performance, are they not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

When we went to Polmont, we saw that the national health service was integrated with the young offenders institution and was providing care directly. It seemed that people were able to get everything that they needed, when they needed it, because of that dedicated specialist support. We did not get independent verification that the service was provided to the standard that we would like it to be, but, nevertheless, the service was provided directly. That is not the case with secure units. Have you any plans to change that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

Can I just go back—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

Quite a lot of young people from outside Scotland are placed in the secure units, and there have been reports that some authorities are paying higher rates than the funding that is provided through the Scottish system. Are we dependent on those places to keep the secure units adequately funded? Are you comfortable with those differential rates?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

Oh, were they?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

I welcome the minister to her new position. Do you have an estimate of how many additional places in secure units we will require as a result of the change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

When we visited a secure unit, we saw that good relationships had been built with local health providers as a result of the good efforts of staff. However, there were sometimes issues when individuals came from health boards outside the area. Continuity of care was an issue. The connections, the good service and the integration were mainly down to the good will of staff, and there is no guarantee that that will always be the case. Will you consider the possibility of the NHS providing direct support to ensure that things are more co-ordinated and seamless in the future?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

Right.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Willie Rennie

No, I can conclude on this point. It is connected with the question about what additional resource will be required to provide the extra places in the secure units. Minister, you have indicated the scale of the issue, but have you done calculations of what will be required in the secure units?